Aaron Hernandez being invested for homicide

[Crimsoncrew]

Silly question because I don't know better but is dead money always paid to the player being released/traded? Or is just an accounting thing in some instances? I know players are owed the guaranteed, just wondering if there are exceptions. Could the Patriots file some sort of action against Hernandez to keep the money? If so, is it removed from the salary cap or is it just kept and the value counts? Is this guaranteed money just a risk they took and so what for what he did? If they kept him, they could suspend him, but that doesn't have much to do with salary cap, does it? Would any action be separate legal thing and not NFL thing? (I don't think so, just asking.)

Dead money applies to the salary cap. My understanding is that they might be able to recoup some of the bonus from the player, but I read last week or early this week that they would not be able to do that for Hernandez's guaranteed money this year and next year. I'd imagine there will be articles that shed more light on that in the next few days.

 

[threelittleturds]

Apparently the Patriots still owe him around $8 mil of his signing bonus, and if the NFL suspends him they do not have to pay him that money. So, I'm sure they are on the phone begging for Goodell to drop the hammer.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Nice one Hernandez. Hope those brownie points with your crew were worth it.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Indicted for murder, among other things (didn't catch the charges, but a co-worker filled me in). Watch it here:

Aaron Hernandez arraignment - Video on NBCNews.com

 

[CalamityX11]

you guys are missing the confederation cup!!!

 

[BINGO]

Aaron Hernandez - TE - Free Agent

Ex-Patriot Aaron Hernandez has been charged with murder in the death of Odin Lloyd, and is facing five additional gun charges.

Jun 26 - 2:43 PM

 

[clyde_carbon]

Text messages and public surveillance cameras, per the prosecutor, indicate that Hernandez picked up Lloyd at 2:30 a.m. ET and drove back to North Attleboro. The prosecutor claims that Hernandez then told Lloyd he was upset that Lloyd had said certain things to others, making it hard for Hernandez to trust him.

Likewise, the prosecutor explained that Lloyd sent text messages while in the car with Hernandez, making others aware that he was with Hernandez.

The prosecutor said that workers at the industrial park heard gunshot wounds, and that surveillance cameras allow prosecutors to piece together that the car Hernandez was driving was at the industrial park, and within minutes thereafter at Hernandez’s home.

The prosecutor said that Hernandez’s surveillance system shows a person getting out of the car with a gun after the shooting, and walking through the house with the gun. Shortly after that, the surveillance system shuts down.

Perhaps most importantly, the prosecutor said a shell casing was found in the car rented by Hernandez. It matches the shell casings found at the scene of the shooting, according to the prosecutor.

Aaron Hernandez charged with murder | ProFootballTalk

Uhh yeah, he's done.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

The Football and Financial Implications of the Patriots Releasing Aaron Hernandez - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

 

[BINGO]

Aaron Hernandez charged with murder | ProFootballTalk

Uhh yeah, he's done.

Crazy. It's a wrap!!

25 to life...?

 

[threelittleturds]

I guess it was pretty smart of the Patriots to release him before he got arraigned for murder. Should be interesting to hear what his version of the story is... but from all of the stuff that has come out already... he looks guilty as hell and I don't think the prosecutors will have any trouble getting a conviction.

Anyone know the projected timeline of a future trial? If it happens during the regular season... sucks to be the Patriots with all of the questions they'll face during the trial.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Crazy. It's a wrap!!

25 to life...?

It's a wrap. Just don't expect the same outrage from people that there was against Vick.

Dogs > People in this country.

 

[NinerSickness]

Police-a them-a they come and-a they blow down me door
One him come crawl through through my window
So they put me in the back of the car at the station
From that point on I reach my destination
Now the destination reached was the East Detention
Where they whipped down my pants and looked up my bottom

Informer
You know say Daddy Hernandez me, I'm gonna blame
A licky boom-boom down
'Tective man says Daddy Hernandez stabbed someone down the lane
A licky boom-boom down
Informer
You know say Daddy Hernandez me, I'm gonna blame
A licky boom-boom down
'Tective man says Daddy Hernandez stabbed someone down the lane
A licky boom-boom down

Bravo for the most obscure reference I've seen all day.

 

[NinerSickness]

If the pieces of the phone don't fit you must acquit!

 

[clyde_carbon]

Charged with 1st degree murder, held without bail.

I don't understand how someone can be this stupid? It almost seems as if he didn't even try to cover it up.

 

[NinerSickness]

He was already arrested huh? Dang. Now I won't get my highway bronco chase.

 

[NinerSickness]

Charged with 1st degree murder, held without bail.

I don't understand how someone can be this stupid? It almost seems as if he didn't even try to cover it up.

He'll probably get off some how.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Charged with 1st degree murder, held without bail.

I don't understand how someone can be this stupid? It almost seems as if he didn't even try to cover it up.

Well, he clearly tried to cover it up, he just did an awful job of it. Tip #1: Don't kill someone within walking distance of your house. And if you do, move the body. Or a least hide it so a jogger won't run into it.

 

[MHSL82]

Dead money applies to the salary cap. My understanding is that they might be able to recoup some of the bonus from the player, but I read last week or early this week that they would not be able to do that for Hernandez's guaranteed money this year and next year. I'd imagine there will be articles that shed more light on that in the next few days.

Thanks, Crimson.

 

[MHSL82]

Apparently the Patriots still owe him around $8 mil of his signing bonus, and if the NFL suspends him they do not have to pay him that money. So, I'm sure they are on the phone begging for Goodell to drop the hammer.

Good. I feel like the guaranteed money should offset risk of injury or being cut, not killing someone (pending conviction). I don't care if it still counts on the salary cap because losing this would give teams some more incentive not to sign troublemakers (though almost anyone can be an exception one way or another). That and it's the Patriots.

 

[MHSL82]

He shouldnt get any money. I originally thought that he should get his contract prorated (so if he played three of five years but has only been paid 2/5, then he's owed the missing 1/5 that he performed). All incentives for next year(s) is excluded from the computation. I thought this because if a player took a backloaded deal for cap reasons to help the team, that shouldn't lessen his take home. However, this idea is scratched because teams will backload a contract to make them cuttable. Without that cutting option, teams may never offered this. To then prorate that amount would be inappropriate as the parties knew the deal.