Mariners trade deadline/rumors thread

[NWinAZ]

My biggest prediction is we end up with Hosmer from SD. They are trying to unload his contract and we have room and need at 1B. If the cost was low as predicted, I would take him on.

Apparently I am not the only one who has this thought.

Mariners Rumors: Trading with the Padres for Eric Hosmer

After the Padres traded for Adam Frazier, they found themselves a bit over the competitive balance tax. The first-time penalty for going over isn't awful, ...

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[wazzu31]

Ya I am guessing it will take a lot more than that to get Merrifield. Then could be part of it, but would be shocked to see Walton and/or Haggerty unless as throw-ins. I don't think it will take any of our top 5, but hearing names like DeLoach, Stoudt, Macko, Perez, Shenton, Case type players. Basically #10 through #30 guys.

I am fine with putting a collection of prospects together except a chosen few. The reason I put Walton, Haggerty, Murphy is two fold. One Jerry has done a terrible job of handling the 40 man roster. Secondly they need to get rid of Murphy or Torrens (obviously I would prefer Torrens) to make the roster better. Let’s say they do get Merrifield, you still got 3 catchers on the roster and then Moore has to get demoted instead of turning him into the super utility player which is where he has excelled. No idea if KC would take Murphy but any deal for a position player almost had to include him.

 

[NWinAZ]

I am fine with putting a collection of prospects together except a chosen few. The reason I put Walton, Haggerty, Murphy is two fold. One Jerry has done a terrible job of handling the 40 man roster. Secondly they need to get rid of Murphy or Torrens (obviously I would prefer Torrens) to make the roster better. Let’s say they do get Merrifield, you still got 3 catchers on the roster and then Moore has to get demoted instead of turning him into the super utility player which is where he has excelled. No idea if KC would take Murphy but any deal for a position player almost had to include him.

I don't think Murphy is in play with KC. They have one of the best catchers in the game and Murphy's bat doesn't play anywhere else. Torrens could be included because he fits KC's timeline and his ability to play at 1B works for them as well. I don't know if I would be in a hurry to deal Torrens though (I am as shocked as anyone that I am saying this), but his bat has been invaluable for the M's and we have so few RH power bats. While I don't like the 3 catcher roster, Torrens can be included at 1B so that does make a big difference.

I would love Moore back at his utility role. Late inning defensive replacement and baserunner would be great. If he finds his bat, we can squeeze him in several different spots.

 

[wazzu31]

I found this after I posted.

Damn, saw this after I posted. I agree with their premise and agree completely on the untouchables, but I would prefer to unload Murphy with prospects. Merrifield upgrades your 2B and utility with Moore but what is more valuable for a playoff chase, Torrens who no one can question has a better bat than Murphy and has shown the ability to play 1B or just a backup catcher.

 

[wazzu31]

White is out for the rest of the year, not sure if he can even be traded.

He should be able to be traded. Any player can be dealt pending a physical and if say Kansas City’s doctors feel he will return fine next year it is their choice. It is all up to the team trading for him much like how the Mariners signed Giles even though he couldn’t throw a ball. The only thing I am not sure of is since he is injured I don’t know if he counts towards the 40 man roster which if he doesn’t count that kind of is a bonus.

 

[wazzu31]

I don't think Murphy is in play with KC. They have one of the best catchers in the game and Murphy's bat doesn't play anywhere else. Torrens could be included because he fits KC's timeline and his ability to play at 1B works for them as well. I don't know if I would be in a hurry to deal Torrens though (I am as shocked as anyone that I am saying this), but his bat has been invaluable for the M's and we have so few RH power bats. While I don't like the 3 catcher roster, Torrens can be included at 1B so that does make a big difference.

I would love Moore back at his utility role. Late inning defensive replacement and baserunner would be great. If he finds his bat, we can squeeze him in several different spots.

If Murphy isn’t in play with KC then Torrens shouldn’t be either because he isn’t a real 1B would he? That is all I am saying. I think Murphy has options left not exactly sure but with Merrifield someone on the big club has to either go down to Tacoma or has to be a throw in piece of a trade.

 

[NWinAZ]

Damn, saw this after I posted. I agree with their premise and agree completely on the untouchables, but I would prefer to unload Murphy with prospects. Merrifield upgrades your 2B and utility with Moore but what is more valuable for a playoff chase, Torrens who no one can question has a better bat than Murphy and has shown the ability to play 1B or just a backup catcher.

I don't think anyone wants 2021 Murphy.

 

[NWinAZ]

If Murphy isn’t in play with KC then Torrens shouldn’t be either because he isn’t a real 1B would he? That is all I am saying. I think Murphy has options left not exactly sure but with Merrifield someone on the big club has to either go down to Tacoma or has to be a throw in piece of a trade.

But that isn't KC's problem is my point. They won't take a guy just to get them off Seattle's roster. Yes if we traded all prospects for Whit, we would have to release or make another trade to get rid of a roster spot. That can all be handled on a temp demotion until dust settles.

And Torrens actually was a real 1B going up with the Yanks. Not saying he is a good one, but not totally new to the position. I want him around as long as his bat remains steady. He is 7th in homers since returning to the bigs.

 

[NWinAZ]

The only thing I am not sure of is since he is injured I don’t know if he counts towards the 40 man roster which if he doesn’t count that kind of is a bonus.

All injured players have to be put on the 40 man then can be put on the 60 day IL clearing a spot on the 40.

 

[wazzu31]

All injured players have to be put on the 40 man then can be put on the 60 day IL clearing a spot on the 40.

Ok, that was the part I didn’t want to sound like I knew what I was talking about.

 

[NWinAZ]

Morosi: Hendricks could be a Seattle Mariner by Friday. Jerry Dipoto has been looking for a veteran starter who is under control and can mentor a young staff. That's Hendricks.

Feinsand: Like Preller, nothing Dipoto does would shock me. The Mariners are surprisingly in the playoff race, so the idea of them getting guys like Hendricks or Whit Merrifield makes sense.

 

[NWinAZ]

Ok, that was the part I didn’t want to sound like I knew what I was talking about.

The only reason I knew that was it happened early in the season to the mariners and they had to release someone on the 40 to add a player to it to then put on the 60 day IL. It makes sense since I could see teams cheating the 40 man by putting them directly on the 60.

 

[wazzu31]

The only reason I knew that was it happened early in the season to the mariners and they had to release someone on the 40 to add a player to it to then put on the 60 day IL. It makes sense since I could see teams cheating the 40 man by putting them directly on the 60.

This is where I wasn’t even 50% sure because baseball is so weird with they have so many freaking loopholes to manipulate rules.

 

[ulmax]

Kyle Hendricks 28

R/R

Zach Davies 27

R/R

either one would be ok..with me lol

 

[ulmax]

the rumars are off the charts..after the frazier trade.....if the mariners can get marrifield..who fits for seattle..prob the best..

Whit Merrifield #15​

• 2B
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 1"/195
• Age: 32

Season	Team	LG	G	AB	R	H	TB	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	IBB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GO/AO
2016	KC	AL	81	311	44	88	122	22	3	2	29	19	1	72	8	3	.283	.323	.392	.716	0.89
2017	KC	AL	145	587	80	169	270	32	6	19	78	29	0	88	34	8	.288	.324	.460	.784	0.70
2018	KC	AL	158	632	88	192	277	43	3	12	60	61	2	114	45	10	.304	.367	.438	.806	0.67
2019	KC	AL	162	681	105	206	315	41	10	16	74	45	5	126	20	10	.302	.348	.463	.811	0.77
2020	KC	AL	60	248	38	70	109	12	0	9	30	12	0	33	12	3	.282	.325	.440	.764	0.83
2021	KC	AL	98	388	56	105	155	22	2	8	52	28	1	60	25	1	.271	.318	.399	.717	0.83
MLB Career	-	-	704	2847	411	830	1248	172	24	66	323	194	9	493	144	35	.292	.339	.438	.777	0.75

MLB Career

Advanced Career Stats​

hrs are not big ..lately..but he can hit them

 

[Destroydacre]

Merrifield would be a good pickup, but he's not a guy you break the bank for IMO. Definitely wouldn't trade any top 10 prospects for him.

 

[ulmax]

Merrifield would be a good pickup, but he's not a guy you break the bank for IMO. Definitely wouldn't trade any top 10 prospects for him.

agreed...but it may take .....campbell....to get it done...is my worrie....yeah..campbell is #10..but if he is off the table... then prob so are..
12..and 13 levi stoudt..and adam macko..then if ya keep going ya dont really ..want to trade any of them...

but i think ya must...

and i do not think they will trade torrens...cuz..when..you find something..that works..ya keep doing it...and torrens is working for the mariners

its hard for any team to give up its ace...so i would think...Zach Davies 27..more likely....and he has been mentioned in other rumars...
i could be wrong though..

 

[ulmax]

if cal..is catching..he cant DH,,same as torrens..if he is catching..he can not DH either...then france is at 1B...im ok with that...for now

fraley being out is hurting ...right now......and lewis...for sure

 

[NWinAZ]

I would trade Kelenic in the right deal. I think at this point in Mariners history it would be better to trade for known MLB talent than hope for the next big thing in Kelenic. If goes elsewhere and blossoms, good for him as long as the return we got is MLB proven.

 

[ulmax]

soo what they say is..the royals want..
A team like Seattle has a clear need for Merrifield, who is under contract through 2022 with a team option in ’23, and the prospects to send over. It has to be the right offer, though.
The Royals could use a steady reliever and
an everyday center fielder. Then next year, they can continue to grow their young talent before making a real push in 2023. -- Anne Rogers
to me
they have no LHP..in the bull pen...which is what and who....they prob see santiago as to old..but Anthony Misiewicz 3..as just right..and i would say this
would..hold them up ..a bit..

but if they throw in
Justus Sheffield 33 IL-10..then it works

cf has to be trammell..but

I would trade Kelenic in the right deal. I think at this point in Mariners history it would be better to trade for known MLB talent than hope for the next big thing in Kelenic. If goes elsewhere and blossoms, good for him as long as the return we got is MLB proven.

yeah i could ..go that...
but ya cant trade trammell..and kelenic
and if ya trade kelenic..then you have to get more from the other side