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He does kind of owe us a little, letting him waste half the year rehabbing and spring training during the season, he might appreciate that, who knows. Just being hopeful I guess, it's not 100% sure he opts out, or doesn't extend with us.
Players careers are way too short to show loyalty like that. He may extend with us, and he may even do it at a relatively acceptable cost. But there is no chance he opts in “out of the goodness of his heart”.

And he shouldn’t.
 

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Players careers are way too short to show loyalty like that. He may extend with us, and he may even do it at a relatively acceptable cost. But there is no chance he opts in “out of the goodness of his heart”.

And he shouldn’t.
You’re right no matter what. But especially with this current President of Baseball Ops.
 

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Players careers are way too short to show loyalty like that. He may extend with us, and he may even do it at a relatively acceptable cost. But there is no chance he opts in “out of the goodness of his heart”.

And he shouldn’t.
I never said otherwise, lots of factors in choosing where to sign, maybe that's one.

Trying to figure out why he wasn't dealt, optimistically maybe they feel they can keep him.
 

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I never said otherwise, lots of factors in choosing where to sign, maybe that's one.

Trying to figure out why he wasn't dealt, optimistically maybe they feel they can keep him.
We have no idea what offers were presented for him. The option was, understandably, a pretty toxic poison pill. The Giants use that contract tool more than any other team (it seems, at least). It would appear that most other teams aren’t comfortable with that level of variable liability.

Barring an injury, I don’t expect Snell to activate the option. It is a 15M salary with a deferred 15M to be paid (iirc) in ‘27. He may not be able to get a multi year 30M aav contract, but he can certainly get a very nice long term deal (4ish years, likely). I wouldn’t be blown away if he were to get a contract better than 4/100.
 

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We have no idea what offers were presented for him. The option was, understandably, a pretty toxic poison pill. The Giants use that contract tool more than any other team (it seems, at least). It would appear that most other teams aren’t comfortable with that level of variable liability.

Barring an injury, I don’t expect Snell to activate the option. It is a 15M salary with a deferred 15M to be paid (iirc) in ‘27. He may not be able to get a multi year 30M aav contract, but he can certainly get a very nice long term deal (4ish years, likely). I wouldn’t be blown away if he were to get a contract better than 4/100.
Would you be happy if it's the Giants signing him for 4/100?
 

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I figure he has at least 1 more season of Ace-level pitching. If we could get an additional 2 seasons as a solid starter, I would be ecstatic with that.
Me too, and it’s only money and they have plenty. I hope they didn’t t trade him because they think they have a good shot to keep him
 
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Maybe being a west coast kid (Seattle) he might want to stay close by. 4/100 million isn’t bad, but I think he will want more years if not more money, if he is decent or better.

Although with California taxes, 4/100 may be closer to 4/85. If he pitched in Florida or Nevada, that 4/100 is legit 4/100. Until the Feds are involved. And yes, I realize players are taxed on where they play, but since most games (81 home + 2 Oak + 6 LAD + 6 SD + 3 LAA) that's almost 60% of the games being played in California.
 

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Although with California taxes, 4/100 may be closer to 4/85. If he pitched in Florida or Nevada, that 4/100 is legit 4/100. Until the Feds are involved. And yes, I realize players are taxed on where they play, but since most games (81 home + 2 Oak + 6 LAD + 6 SD + 3 LAA) that's almost 60% of the games being played in California.
Sadly that is true.
 

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Although with California taxes, 4/100 may be closer to 4/85. If he pitched in Florida or Nevada, that 4/100 is legit 4/100. Until the Feds are involved. And yes, I realize players are taxed on where they play, but since most games (81 home + 2 Oak + 6 LAD + 6 SD + 3 LAA) that's almost 60% of the games being played in California.
Look at all the FA the dogs miss out on because of those same restrictions…
 

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Interesting factoid from Baggs today:

Snell, for all his two Cy Young Awards and his 15-strikeout dominance in his outing Saturday, has never thrown a pitch in the ninth inning. (He’s faced only 12 hitters in his career after the seventh inning.)
 

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Interesting factoid from Baggs today:

Snell, for all his two Cy Young Awards and his 15-strikeout dominance in his outing Saturday, has never thrown a pitch in the ninth inning. (He’s faced only 12 hitters in his career after the seventh inning.)
He is legit so filthy that he does not induce bad contact. His pitch count is always too high for him to go deep.
 

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Interesting factoid from Baggs today:

Snell, for all his two Cy Young Awards and his 15-strikeout dominance in his outing Saturday, has never thrown a pitch in the ninth inning. (He’s faced only 12 hitters in his career after the seventh inning.)
He is no Webb
 
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