2024 Trade Deadline

[calsnowskier]

Only guy we got that has some play is Jacob Bresnahan I have no idea of his pedigree and what his pitching attributes are.

As much as I am put to sleep by the Soler trade, in a vacuum, it was a GREAT trade for the Giants.

 

[LHG]

Not me; full credit for admitting it isn't working out. It wasn't a bad signing at the time. It just turned out that Soler hit like a little bitch at Oracle. So, he dumps the salary. Good move and we pick up a mid tier prospect.

Still feel this way with the Canha acquisition?

 

[Stokes1931]

May I interest you in an old, slow corner OF whose best skill now appears to be getting hit by pitches?

Ron Hunt redux!

 

[LHG]

It should be pointed out that Soler's departure was a great opportunity to try our Jerar Encarnacion. Instead, we get Mark Canha.

 

[tzill]

Still feel this way with the Canha acquisition?

I don't think the Canha deal moves the needle at all. It's just churn.

Luci hitting six tonight at DH.

 

[LHG]

Speaking only for myself…I just want a direction. Like let’s sell sell or buy buy. I was ok when they held on to MadBum as a loyalty move to a tenured Giant. But it seems like most trade deadlines it’s a mix of both buy and sell and it never seems to turn out in our favor. If I was a player on the Giants under the Farhan regime, I’d feel like a number and have no loyalty to the front office whatsoever and definitely would be hesitant to sign there long term (unless they blow me away from other offers).

Just disappointed, no sense in mad anymore.

But this was like a soft sell…let’s do a sell sell (like Snell and Chapman and anybody else that will fetch something good - if the deal is there I know it takes two to tango). This seems to me like “we’re replacing old not very productive guys with young might be productive guys” without getting much back in return.

In a vacuum I’m not against any of the moves made. Just wish we’d push our chips in one way or the other.

FZ has heard your request . . . and decided to further muddy the waters.

 

[LHG]

I don't think the Canha deal moves the needle at all. It's just churn.

Luci hitting six tonight at DH.

He decided to cfix a mistake . . and then fill that spot with another mistake. That's my take, anyway.

 

[filosofy29]

Mark Canhahahahahaha

 

[tzill]

He decided to cfix a mistake . . and then fill that spot with another mistake. That's my take, anyway.

Nah, Luci fills the Soler spot, so to me that's an upgrade and a good move.

Canha is just another churn move. Gave up nothing, got nothing.

Real missed opportunity to deal Snelk, though.

 

[calsnowskier]

Nah, Luci fills the Soler spot, so to me that's an upgrade and a good move.

Canha is just another churn move. Gave up nothing, got nothing.

Real missed opportunity to deal Snelk, though.

I can only assume that trading Snell would have cost the org more than 5M in lost gate/ad/concession/etc income in the final 2 months. I have no way to know how to calculate those activities, but that is the only thing that makes any sense to me.

 

[tzill]

I can only assume that trading Snell would have cost the org more than 5M in lost gate/ad/concession/etc income in the final 2 months. I have no way to know how to calculate those activities, but that is the only thing that makes any sense to me.

I doubt that was the calculus, at least not directly.

There is a white flag effect that they are probably more concerned with. could be the image takes too much of a hit in their estimation if we had dealt Snelk for Holliday. Tells potential FAs "hey, we might pay you to come here but we'll ship you out if we struggle." Although, we did it with Soler, so....

 

[calsnowskier]

I doubt that was the calculus, at least not directly.

There is a white flag effect that they are probably more concerned with. could be the image takes too much of a hit in their estimation if we had dealt Snelk for Holliday. Tells potential FAs "hey, we might pay you to come here but we'll ship you out if we struggle." Although, we did it with Soler, so....

Dude.

Holliday was NEVER on the table. Just stop.

As for telling future FAs that we may do a fire sale, only a very few orgs avoid fire sales, and they are still able to sign FAs. Basically, it seems that all teams are in the “Meh” bucket for FAs save for the Spanks, dogs, Cards and Cubs. They seem to get a bit of a sweetheart treatment that other orgs don’t enjoy. And most teams fire sale when appropriate.

 

[tzill]

Dude.

Holliday was NEVER on the table. Just stop.

As for telling future FAs that we may do a fire sale, only a very few orgs avoid fire sales, and they are still able to sign FAs. Basically, it seems that all teams are in the “Meh” bucket for FAs save for the Spanks, dogs, Cards and Cubs. They seem to get a bit of a sweetheart treatment that other orgs don’t enjoy. And most teams fire sale when appropriate.

Not us though. Can't remember one, can you?

 

[calsnowskier]

Oh Jesus…

Canha is a fucking Tinker Belle.

Shoot him now. In the head. We need white matter on the floor…

 

[calsnowskier]

Not us though. Can't remember one, can you?

No, we haven’t.

And how has that helped us attract FAs?

 

[tzill]

No, we haven’t.

And how has that helped us attract FAs?

Well, off the top of my head:

Cueto
McGee
Vogelsong
Torres
Casilla
RayRay
Butler
Brenly
Panda
Bonds
Lee
Chapman
Hicks
Soler
Huff



But yeah, you do have a point

 

[calsnowskier]

Well, off the top of my head:

Cueto
McGee
Vogelsong
Torres
Casilla
RayRay
Butler
Brenly
Panda
Bonds
Lee
Chapman
Hicks
Soler
Huff



But yeah, you do have a point

So these guys signed with us because we haven’t had a fire sale?

 

[tzill]

So these guys signed with us because we haven’t had a fire sale?

could've been a factor

 

[calsnowskier]

could've been a factor

Might not have been.

 

[filosofy29]

Might not have been.

The answer lies here