10am Starts still hurt the Seahawks

[JDM]

here is a little tidbit of info

According to Cold Hard Football Facts, the four teams from the west coast have a 32-57 record in 10 a.m. PST starts over the past five seasons. Five of those wins were by the 49ers in 2011.

Given the overwhelming evidence that teams from the west coast are at a competitive disadvantage when traveling east, and that scientific studies shows that an athlete's performance is at its peak late in the afternoon, the NFL should accommodate these west coast teams by scheduling games in the the Eastern Time Zone for the late afternoon time slot on Sundays.

As in San fransisco, Seattle, Oakland, and San Diego I'm guessing? The 49ers have been solid for a couple of those years and barring Seattle last year, who was relying on a rookie QB, every other team was a joke every year. What was the total win % of those teams in the same stretch?

 

[MrS]

As in San fransisco, Seattle, Oakland, and San Diego I'm guessing? The 49ers have been solid for a couple of those years and barring Seattle last year, who was relying on a rookie QB, every other team was a joke every year. What was the total win % of those teams in the same stretch?

its only 4 teams, what would be the big deal about having their east coast games start at 4pm EST? Its not like we are demanding they meet on neutral ground, just want a 3 hour later start time.

Are you afraid it might take away a big advantage your team has?

 

[JDM]

I don't care when they put them. When it's shitty games they won't be on TV anyways. I'm just saying that it is not a legitimate complaint until I see numbers that not only show a losing record, but show a noticeably better record over the same stretch in other scenarios.

Oakland averaged 6 wins over that stretch, Seattle averaged almost 7 wins, SF about 9, and SD about 9. That means as a whole they were slightly below .500, and road games are already tougher. I don't see much cause for complaint.

 

[MrS]

I don't care when they put them. When it's shitty games they won't be on TV anyways. I'm just saying that it is not a legitimate complaint until I see numbers that not only show a losing record, but show a noticeably better record over the same stretch in other scenarios.

Oakland averaged 6 wins over that stretch, Seattle averaged almost 7 wins, SF about 9, and SD about 9. That means as a whole they were slightly below .500, and road games are already tougher. I don't see much cause for complaint.

If you dont care then why are you arguing against it? Its not like moving the games to 4pm EST is that big of a deal. Its not like we are demanding that we only travel east ONE TIME PER YEAR like your team did.

 

[octagondd]

Again, link?

Reading comprehension? Basic computer skills?

Let me google that for you

 

[JDM]

I am arguing that this thread is whiny bullshit when it isn't a real complaint. My point hasn't changed once.

 

[JDM]

Reading comprehension? Basic computer skills?

Let me google that for you

So he's on a committee, which means he must have been the one who pushed it through. Wow. How thought provoking.

 

[octagondd]

Beacuse your pansy ass team can't fly West more than once a year because your owner doesn't want his poor, poor Patriots to have to sit on hemmoroid pillows for that long of a flight.

Is that what you want? You want some stupid insult fest instead of facts. We have given you the links, now go cry in your tea for the rest of the morning over Wilfork.

 

[JDM]

You haven't given me links that state what you claim.

You did show that some bad to mediocre teams performed slightly worse on the road than at home.

 

[octagondd]

So he's on a committee, which means he must have been the one who pushed it through. Wow. How thought provoking.

He is the chairman of the committee that pushed the rule change. Again, reading comprehension? I thought they had good schools on the east coast.

 

[JDM]

A chairman's job is not to push anything through. On many boards, committees, etc, the chairman won't even vote unless there is a tie.

 

[octagondd]

Since you probably won't click:

Most of the literature indicates that muscular strength demonstrates significant time-of-day
effects. As with longer anaerobic testing, strength performance is less impressive before
noon than it is in mid-afternoon and early evening. Moreover, when strength is measured
with a device that controls for speed of limb movement (isokinetic), this chronobiological
fluctuation is most pronounced at faster speeds. It has been suggested that muscle strength
is greater later in the day because body temperature is also higher at this time. The gradual
increase in body temperature throughout the afternoon and early evening also contributes to
the improved flexibility observed then. Accordingly, both muscle contractility and extensibility
are influenced by the body’s natural variation in temperature. This suggests that not only is
greater strength performance more likely in the afternoon, but resistance to muscle injury
may also be greater at that time.

http://www.acsm.org/docs/current-comments/chronobiologicaleffectsonexercise.pdf

 

[octagondd]

Since you probably won't click:

Most of the literature indicates that muscular strength demonstrates significant time-of-day
effects. As with longer anaerobic testing, strength performance is less impressive before
noon than it is in mid-afternoon and early evening. Moreover, when strength is measured
with a device that controls for speed of limb movement (isokinetic), this chronobiological
fluctuation is most pronounced at faster speeds. It has been suggested that muscle strength
is greater later in the day because body temperature is also higher at this time. The gradual
increase in body temperature throughout the afternoon and early evening also contributes to
the improved flexibility observed then. Accordingly, both muscle contractility and extensibility
are influenced by the body’s natural variation in temperature. This suggests that not only is
greater strength performance more likely in the afternoon, but resistance to muscle injury
may also be greater at that time.

http://www.acsm.org/docs/current-comments/chronobiologicaleffectsonexercise.pdf

 

[Wedgie]

You guys are wasting your time on this obtuse troll.

 

[darken65]

I don't think you will find any fan or team from the east in agreement. They like this advantage and will defend it with some BS story every time. It would be an easy fix for the League to do but some owners seem to have more clout.

 

[Mr. Tacoma]

I don't think you will find any fan or team from the east in agreement. They like this advantage and will defend it with some BS story every time. It would be an easy fix for the League to do but some owners seem to have more clout.

It doesn't affect the teams that about 80% of NFL fans root for so they don't care. Aside from maybe San Fran west coast teams don't have a national following so the NFL doesn't think it's a problem worth addressing.

 

[Uhsplit]

Still make excuses even when Schaub gives you guys a victory? Your OL is banged up and were getting manhandled. Especially in the first half. The defensive gave up some big plays but also made some big plays. All in all you were gifted the game. Don't make excuses for winning.

Gifted? You are a fool. Quit reading the stat sheet. You sound like Beaker's little brother who only looks at the stat lines.

Our D shut them down and our O answered with 20 unanswered.

A 98 yard drive to be down by 7. A pick 6 that our coaches saw and taught our players the Friday before the game.

Houston had 2 opportunities in OT to win and got shut down by the Seattle D.
This was a hard fought game.

 

[JDM]

Since you probably won't click:

Most of the literature indicates that muscular strength demonstrates significant time-of-day
effects. As with longer anaerobic testing, strength performance is less impressive before
noon than it is in mid-afternoon and early evening. Moreover, when strength is measured
with a device that controls for speed of limb movement (isokinetic), this chronobiological
fluctuation is most pronounced at faster speeds. It has been suggested that muscle strength
is greater later in the day because body temperature is also higher at this time. The gradual
increase in body temperature throughout the afternoon and early evening also contributes to
the improved flexibility observed then. Accordingly, both muscle contractility and extensibility
are influenced by the body’s natural variation in temperature. This suggests that not only is
greater strength performance more likely in the afternoon, but resistance to muscle injury
may also be greater at that time.

http://www.acsm.org/docs/current-comments/chronobiologicaleffectsonexercise.pdf

And regardless, the teams will be three hours apart in that cycle. You're acting like your team is just rolling out of bed while the other team has been up 10 hours. Changing the start times would have no net impact.

 

[DunceKaep]

You haven't given me links that state what you claim.

You did show that some bad to mediocre teams performed slightly worse on the road than at home.

West Coast teams' uphill fight with NFL - NFC West Blog - ESPN

link provided. Now bitch about the link "not being good enough"
in another Sando article, it says specifically, after Back to Back West Coast Trips made by the Patriots, the league got together and voted to change the "Burden of East Coast to West Coast Travel" Boo hoo.
Now, in this article, it didn't specifically say Kraft, but let's see, after BtB trips to the WC by the Pats.....hum, I wonder who complained. Also, Clayton contributed to another article, and I have heard Clayton specifically say it was KRAFT who made the request. Deny all you want, but your owner is the excuse maker.

 

[Uhsplit]

Grown men can handle flying on a luxury jet without an issue. Back in the days where you had to sit on a bus for a day, maybe it's a real concern. These days, it doesn't matter. Excuses are for losers.

The only ones that complain about travel are the ones that have to travel the most. The nearest stadium to us is SF/OAK which is about 800 miles away. How many stadiums are within 800 miles of Foxboro?