So, Who's the moron that said the Lakers are the better-operated franchise than the Cavs?

[WiggyRuss]

If there's one thing the Lakers have done pretty well of late, it's the draft. .

uhh what?

 

[CitySushi]

He doesn't have to "shoot correctly" to be a good shooter. The NBA has had plenty of players who don't "shoot correctly" in the hall of fame

Jamaal "Silk" Wilkes and Reggie Miller both come to mind immediately.

When Lonzo is able to "just shoot his shot", he does fine. The problem is that he needs to be able to get the shot off comfortably and that's where the problem is when he is covered.

If he can keep basically the same shot, but he will need to raise his release point and/or be able to get his shot off quicker.

Imo, the bigger issue is his free throw shooting.

Peja had a hitch in his shot. Kevin Martin also comes to mind. Hell even Shawn Marion had a busted ass shot, but it worked for him.

Release point consistency is key. As long as Lonzo continues to work on it, form isn't really a huge problem. It's success rate that matters.

 

[CitySushi]

uhh what?

I mean technically he's not wrong. Only problem is their two best players they drafted are no longer on their team. D'Lo's an allstar now, and Julius Randle is beasting in New Orleans.

 

[Black Adam]

I mean technically he's not wrong. Only problem is their two best players they drafted are no longer on their team. D'Lo's an allstar now, and Julius Randle is beasting in New Orleans.

Kuzma was a great pick imo tyvm...

 

[DJ]

With 9 games left in the season

LONZO Ball. has missed 16 games and is done for the season
BRANDON Ingram has missed 21 and done for the season
KYLE kuzma only missed 6
lebron missed 20
THREE STARTERS MISSED 16 GAMES OR MORE

Ball will have missed 35 games by the time the season is over.

 

[DJ]

Really?

Capella has missed 15 games. CP3 24 games. Gordon 14 games. And the Rockets are in 3rd place.

Curry has missed 12, Dray has missed 15 and Cousins has missed 50. And the Warriors are in 1st place.

For the Spurs, White has missed 15, Gay 13 and Murray the entire season.

That is just this year. Other teams have injuries too.

Stop making excuses. The Lakers have had a bad season and it isn't just because a couple guys got hurt.
Their off season moves beyond signing LeBron were terrible.

Also, LeBron has missed a couple games lately because they are out of the race.

Houston wasn't without their best player.....


James has missed

Ball missed

Really?

Capella has missed 15 games. CP3 24 games. Gordon 14 games. And the Rockets are in 3rd place.

Curry has missed 12, Dray has missed 15 and Cousins has missed 50. And the Warriors are in 1st place.

For the Spurs, White has missed 15, Gay 13 and Murray the entire season.

That is just this year. Other teams have injuries too.

Stop making excuses. The Lakers have had a bad season and it isn't just because a couple guys got hurt.
Their off season moves beyond signing LeBron were terrible.

Also, LeBron has missed a couple games lately because they are out of the race.

James missed 19 games due to injury and he's the Lakers best payer. Houston's best player is Harden.....how many games has he missed?

Ball will have missed 35 games by the time the season is over.

Ingram will have missed 30 games.....he's probably the Lakers 2nd best player.

Rondo has missed 34.

Hart has missed 12.

Kuzma has missed 9.

That's 139 games lost due to injuries....a lot.

 

[DJ]

My point was the same as it always was. If the Lakers had traded everything that was rumored for Davis it would not have set them up to be competitive for a championship. And the chest would have been empty to add the needed 3rd option.

They would have had veterans coming out of the woodwork in the summer to play with James and AD.....

 

[Shanemansj13]

If there's one thing the Lakers have done pretty well of late, it's the draft. Some slow-developing players, but they all appear to be coming into their own. Ball needs more time, but I liked what I saw out of him the few games before his injury.

Coming into their own?

Kuzma is the only one.
Ingram can't play with Lebron and needs the ball in his hands.
Lonzo is a trainwreck and not worthy of the #2 pick overall.
All are not very good outside shooters as well which doesn't help having Lebron to kick it out to shooters.

The BEST possible thing is trading away all these young players for AD or another star. Didn't really work at the trade deadline but that seems like the best hope for these young players minus Kuzma.

Not to mention the best guys the Lakers drafted they traded away, Randle and DLo. Also, gave away Zubac for nothing.

 

[DJ]

So reading through this thread......TLF is taking L's left and right.

 

[DJ]

Peja had a hitch in his shot. Kevin Martin also comes to mind. Hell even Shawn Marion had a busted ass shot, but it worked for him.

Release point consistency is key. As long as Lonzo continues to work on it, form isn't really a huge problem. It's success rate that matters.

This.

And he improved his FG shooting in year 2.

 

[DJ]

Coming into their own?

Kuzma is the only one.
Ingram can't play with Lebron and needs the ball in his hands.
Lonzo is a trainwreck and not worthy of the #2 pick overall.
All are not very good outside shooters as well which doesn't help having Lebron to kick it out to shooters.

The BEST possible thing is trading away all these young players for AD or another star. Didn't really work at the trade deadline but that seems like the best hope for these young players minus Kuzma.

Not to mention the best guys the Lakers drafted they traded away, Randle and DLo. Also, gave away Zubac for nothing.

You clearly didn't see Ingram play his last 20-25 games before he was hurt.....

But, have been hyping Sexton since as of late?

#Hypocrite

 

[WiggyRuss]

Ball will have missed 35 games by the time the season is over.

@Mecca remember when i got these for kyrie from @DJ all the time? mwahahaha

 

[Shanemansj13]

Peja had a hitch in his shot. Kevin Martin also comes to mind. Hell even Shawn Marion had a busted ass shot, but it worked for him.

Release point consistency is key. As long as Lonzo continues to work on it, form isn't really a huge problem. It's success rate that matters.

So basically if the ball goes in the hoop...that's good

 

[Shanemansj13]

You clearly didn't see Ingram play his last 20-25 games before he was hurt.....

But, have been hyping Sexton since as of late?

#Hypocrite

Go take a look at Ingram's rookie year and now Sexton's rookie year.

Ingram was hyped up and drafted #2

Sexton was drafted #8

You're right, there is no comparison. Sexton had a better rookie season and wasn't hyped up lolzz

 

[Shanemansj13]

I mean we are talking about a hyped up #2 pick that got drafted by Duke compared to a #8 pick that is athletic but was overlooked. I mean c'mon man. Not a fair comparison in the first place but I would have to say Sexton was far more impressive offensively and adjusting to the game.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Go take a look at Ingram's rookie year and now Sexton's rookie year.

Ingram was hyped up and drafted #2

Sexton was drafted #8

You're right, there is no comparison. Sexton had a better rookie season and wasn't hyped up lolzz

also....as far as value goes....

Sexton has a work ethic that is almost TOO good. He has a great attitude as well.

Ingram got tossed and suspended for throwing punches because he acted like an idiot----- and then- through no fault of his own- of course had surgery for blood clot issues further clouding his future.

Ingram just kinda seems like an in between type of guy- its hard to explain -he is definitely not like a rim rocking athlete, and he is definitely not a 3 pt shooter....hes like kind of an in between scorer that really doesnt do anything at an elite level......I dunno. He played really well for like a month stretch there after the ASB- thats for sure----- but I dont see 2nd guy on a good team level potential...MAYBE 3rd guy on a good team potential someday.

 

[Shanemansj13]

also....as far as value goes....

Sexton has a work ethic that is almost TOO good. He has a great attitude as well.

Ingram got tossed and suspended for throwing punches because he acted like an idiot----- and then- through no fault of his own- of course had surgery for blood clot issues further clouding his future.

Ingram just kinda seems like an in between type of guy- its hard to explain -he is definitely not like a rim rocking athlete, and he is definitely not a 3 pt shooter....hes like kind of an in between scorer that really doesnt do anything at an elite level......I dunno. He played really well for like a month stretch there after the ASB- thats for sure----- but I dont see 2nd guy on a good team level potential...MAYBE 3rd guy on a good team potential someday.

Harrison Barnes?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Ball will have missed 35 games by the time the season is over.

At the time I wrote that dumb Ass, he had already missed 16 and that was my point.

 

[tlance]

He doesn't have to "shoot correctly" to be a good shooter. The NBA has had plenty of players who don't "shoot correctly" in the hall of fame

Jamaal "Silk" Wilkes and Reggie Miller both come to mind immediately.

When Lonzo is able to "just shoot his shot", he does fine. The problem is that he needs to be able to get the shot off comfortably and that's where the problem is when he is covered.

If he can keep basically the same shot, but he will need to raise his release point and/or be able to get his shot off quicker.

Imo, the bigger issue is his free throw shooting.

It is true that you don't need to shoot correctly to be a good/great shooter.

But, there is a reason nobody ever changed Reggie Miller's mechanics. He was a great shooter at every level.

Lonzo was never a great shooter. He was serviceable in college. Not great. There were always questions about his technique and he has been flat out awful with his shot in the NBA.

Time to reconstruct his shot. There just isn't a legitimate reason not to. If Lonzo works on it with a shot doctor this summer he can come back to training camp with a totally new shot that is game ready. It will still take time to develop to the point where he is a feared shooter, but I just don't see what he has to lose right now.

Every summer that goes by without Lonzo retooling his shot is a summer mostly wasted, IMO.

 

[tlance]

Houston wasn't without their best player.....


James has missed

Ball missed


James missed 19 games due to injury and he's the Lakers best payer. Houston's best player is Harden.....how many games has he missed?

Ball will have missed 35 games by the time the season is over.

Ingram will have missed 30 games.....he's probably the Lakers 2nd best player.

Rondo has missed 34.

Hart has missed 12.

Kuzma has missed 9.

That's 139 games lost due to injuries....a lot.

I am not suggesting injuries weren't a huge negative factor in the Laker season.

But they were not even close to the only problem.

Laker fans who want to pretend like injuries were the only problem this year are in denial.