Mariners 2023 - 2024 offseason thread

[ulmax]

I'm a get me..a lou Pinella.
Video..
Kiking dirt..on morosi..
And giving him..what for.

Then kiking 2b..around.
Can't just..know..
But I'll get it..

 

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Aside.from.that..mariners.
Need to get in depth..on
Johnathan indea .
See if...he could make.
A good. 3b..
May take Scott hunter..
To...do that..

 

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Cuz that is what happens.
With guys who .
Are not quit.good enough.
Get kicked..to.the corners

 

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If ..if .were gifts ...
We could .all get .one .
At christmas...
Chances .are .low .
That...mariners..get in..on.
Ohtani..sweepstakes..
Why....
Stanton..cheap..skate ...

Not impossable though ..
With otahni as big 8n Japan.
As america..
There.is a lot of money..
To be made. There.
So .I'm a year by .year.guy.
And the
Biggest contract I've.seen.
Is Aaron.judge.40..mil..
Could.mariners..handle.that.
What do ya mean..like 41 mil .???.
But not this year .cuz..he
Only ..a dh .next..year..??.
HhhhhMmmmm
How can we work this .
First 2.years..less..
Then.more. would..work.
Mariners know..he.will.
Not be..the same..pitcher..
He was before ..but..
Neither .was moyer..

The ability..to .adapt..
Will.be most..important.
For othani...

That said..cost .would be..
Important for both sides .

25 mil .first.and second..
Year.maybe 30 .would be fair..I would say..
Then kiking.up..to 41.mil.
I'm. Paying a lot here.
And making him..the highest..payed.player..

So..and dealing with..
2nd..t.j...is hard .and cano.
Thing .I.dont.want
to.
Go..over but want to.win.
Him..as well..??!!...

So ok then...
But to make it worth it.
For both sides ..
They need a ws..for the
Money. ..you would think..
Anyway..

So.add..41what ever..
If they trade .Suarez..
And Gonzales. Is 23.mil.off.
Plus..
18 mil..is .118.mil..only.
with declining..I'm not saying how .but getting.
older with 2.t.j.s is no.joke.
and I'm not saying..how many..years ..but japanees.
like to work till..
the end ...like ichiro..
yeah. Same..
but .as we can see .118.mil.
is not too .much..
and still leaves space .
for more additions..
even a pitcher. .for..at least.
this year ...but..the next.year..would be ..

1othani.
2.snell..lolo
3kerby..
4robbie..ray..
5 gilbert..

6.miller..
7.hancock..


Hay..what happend.to.castillo..
had to
Trade .him .sorry about that.
Next year .though not this.
And I still bring snell.as well.
23mil..
118.
023
........
141mil.
Indea trade. 3b.
Amed Rosario .10 mil.2b/ss
Santana .1b..10mil.
Murphy .7mil..
And they are still making it.
In..under the. 230.mil.
Cap.
And within..league. Average..
Well .a hair..over .
It's just..math .
But ya get. Really everthing.
Ya want..including.snell.
( No..no.same ole..as Maza)..
Ohh .one more..Laurdis.gurriel.jr.
167..plus 23.
190.mil..

Hoooo..
Expencive ..

But .as i have said..
It's a.free agent. bubble .
It would go down..
After.
Possable. Yes..probable..
Lolollo..
No..

 

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Ok there is your..Christmas.

If..if...gift..

 

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Spotrac..lourdes guierrel.jr.
Market value..
14.6.mil..

 

[wazzu31]

Not Mariners related but owners approved the A’s move to Vegas. IMO classless move by Stanton to not be a token no. No owner of any Seattle sports franchise should ever vote yes on a relocation.

 

[NWinAZ]

Not Mariners related but owners approved the A’s move to Vegas. IMO classless move by Stanton to not be a token no. No owner of any Seattle sports franchise should ever vote yes on a relocation.

Everyone knew it would pass but still BS. Stanton would never go against the flow...unless the flow was against the fans of Seattle.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

Take a fly through this. Locked on Mariners roster projection. I hold my thoughts until others have had a chance to watch. And just a heads up, I use the time bar to see the next segment so it speeds up the viewing tremendously.

 

[NWinAZ]

Julio Rodríguez has finished inside of the Top 10 of AL MVP voting for the second time.Here’s why that matters: When the Mariners extended Julio Rodríguez to a massive contract, it came with a lot of factors. The main factor are his MVP voting finishes.

For Julio’s contract, here are the elevators to his 2030 club option, an option that must be decided after the 2028 season:
0 Top 10 votes - check
2 Top 10 votes - check
4 Top 10 votes
(1 MVP + 1 Top 5 vote) OR (3 Top 5 votes)
2 MVP’s OR 4 Top 5 votes

Those voting finishes are only between 2022 and 2028.

So far, Julio now has two Top 10 votes and one Top 5 vote. With his two Top 10 votes, Julio Rodriguez’s club option currently sits at 8 years / $240M ($30M AAV).If Julio Rodriguez is able to win an MVP or finish in the Top 5 two more times between 2024 and 2028, his 2030 club option will rise to 8 years / $280M ($35M AAV).The highest elevator (2 MVP’s or four Top 5 finishes) would raise his 2030 club option to 10 years / $350M ($35M AAV). There’s lots of time left to worry about this stuff, but Julio’s MVP finishes do matter.

 

[wazzu31]

Everyone knew it would pass but still BS. Stanton would never go against the flow...unless the flow was against the fans of Seattle.

Sure, but it’s not like the other owners would be upset. They would know it is just virtue signaling to the Seattle fan base. It’s just one more thing that Stanton is going to have to answer for if he ever talks to the public again. He has gotten so much bad PR for a year now, might as well do something that costs nothing to get a least a little good PR especially going into the crapstorm that they are going to get because they aren’t going to spend the money on Ohtani or Bellinger and Snell is going to go Trevor May on them when he signs with the Rangers to spite them.

 

[wazzu31]

Take a fly through this. Locked on Mariners roster projection. I hold my thoughts until others have had a chance to watch. And just a heads up, I use the time bar to see the next segment so it speeds up the viewing tremendously.

There plan isn’t bad but two things

1. I hate the idea of signing the Japanese pitcher for $15 million, when $10 extra could get you a bonafide Cy Young pitcher in Snell

2. Getting Brown and Cronenworth doesn’t seem bad, but that causes some serious issues because the lineup would have a lot lefties and as we saw in September they are all in on the LH/RH lineup. Not sure how Rojas could be the infield utility player in that scenario and I really am uncomfortable having Dylan Moore being the outfield utility player.

 

[ulmax]

There plan isn’t bad but two things

1. I hate the idea of signing the Japanese pitcher for $15 million, when $10 extra could get you a bonafide Cy Young pitcher in Snell

2. Getting Brown and Cronenworth doesn’t seem bad, but that causes some serious issues because the lineup would have a lot lefties and as we saw in September they are all in on the LH/RH lineup. Not sure how Rojas could be the infield utility player in that scenario and I really am uncomfortable having Dylan Moore being the outfield utility player.

Walking.on.egg.shells..
According to
Passan ..in ny post
But..im .to much of a cowboy.for.that..
I like to go in guns..
Blazing..
Yeah..crownanworth..
Naaa

 

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Every team wants him.
So.
Witch.ever team.he chooses.im happy with it in 2 ways..
Happy.. he.is where he can.
Be happy..
And.if it's not mariners..
Then.happy.the mariners.
Did not have.to.pay..a huge.
Contract ..
But ..baseball..is a business...
And business..is buisness..
Ya wake up.eveyday..go.to work..

 

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I don't know..how..you say
Mariners..are one bat..
Away..but ..they have.to..
Give up..a pitcher..
One of the good ones...
Not a crappy .one ..
To..get..anything .
Just .what is that .all about...
Mariners can't add any. one.
In free agents .Mr morosi..
Cuz that is what we waiting for..
2 bats..that will..push us over..and put ..the mariners.
In the.playoffs..
Not crappy teams like.texas..or houston.

 

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No giving up .what is gitting.
The mariners..that far in the 1st place...will.not..be good.
They need to add.bats..not.
Lose.pitchers.

 

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And according..to morosi.
Passan .
Mariners may as well..
Just play..in..AAA..cuz.the tickets will.never .be worth.
The price...
Cuz.all..the mariners are..
Aloud..to have(.and even there own players..if they are any good..must go else were)..is crappy .players..
No morosi..no...
Well beat you...in spit..of.

 

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Then.accoding to them.
Both othani..and bellringer.
Go to Yankees .
Whatever..man..sounds like.a bubble of walking..
Bull..
Well..bellinger is from.chandler.arizona..

Of coarse .othani from.tokyo. Japan..
You think..the Yankees
Have more.money.than.
Stanton .both only have.
230 mil .only .

 

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Yeah..I don't know.im from here .so..
My rich dreams..don't.
Include.N Y..or Texas....
Or Houston..
Yeah..somehow..they .just got...xxxxx..ed out I guess..
Lolololo