Mariners 2023 - 2024 offseason thread

[ulmax]

Crawford .to..2b..and..young .to..ss..is most.
Probable...In. The future .
If ya worrie about Crawford...

And indea..is free agent..in 2026..
So it fits..
And Crawford is a major piece...of mariners

 

[ulmax]

Whatever.mariers..do....

Doing..nothing ..will.go.nowhere.
And the good pitching..will.evaparat.
Before..hitting.catches up.in that .case..

 

[ulmax]

If mariners do nothing...patrones
Likely.
Will..
As well...

Seeing...there..is no point .to following..
The mariners .

 

[ulmax]

Market .value for..blake Snell per spotrac..
Is .23 mil...
Ok. 25bmil..ok..
But .years .10...give me a break...I'll go..6..
Not trying to make..the guy..a slave...
6x25mil..
150 mil..not..200..mil..

Bob nightingale..San Diego..

Might be def story with opt outs ands such.
All the normal..
Mlb...bs ..

 

[ulmax]

116.
25..
....,...
141 mil..if..still .Gonzales..and Suarez..
Otherwise..it's .

+..2mil....lololoooo..
I guess .200 mil..is 8 years..so that is not ..
As bad..
With opt outs..
And..no ..
No trade clause...cuz .either side ..may..
Need it..

 

[ulmax]

Its hard. To say .over .6..8 years..
Where .the franchise .goes ..
And where .
A career..goes .could be different..
To be..fair..to both..sides.

But that..is all..ball players..

As the baseball turns..

 

[ulmax]

Conmiting..money. to hitters...
Sure othani..
Mariner.s have needed. A 3rd. Hitter .
For. A long. Time .left .handed..big.bat..

Otahni..is that..and on the 1st..page..of stats..
Where..julio. is on the.2nd..page....
Crawford..9n the 3rd page...

But othani..is more than just .a hitter .
So ..he is a secret..weapon..the mariners.
Can use .

One..more .
Amed..Rosario..and..have posted..why.
Risp..guys..top..20

Otani..
Rosario .
Jimenez..
Ruiz..

 

[ulmax]

I assume..otahni..is..30 mil...
The market value .is not on..spotrac...
But his salaries is..he is 29..yo.

So..
Snell .25..mil..
Ohtani..30..mil
Assuming..
With Snell..
And without,Suarez..gonzales
Is..
120..mil..
3o..
150..mil...
League ave..165 mil.. still a bargain..

Santana .
Carantini..
Rosario..
All for 20 mil.call it.180..mil.to.190.mil.
And still a bargain..
To shove .
The rangers...and Astros..
Nose ..in it...

 

[NWinAZ]

Seattle Mariners' Coach Set to Interview For Managerial Opening

The San Francisco Giants are making the rounds this week with regards to managerial candidates and interviews. One of the names on their list is former All-Star and current Seattle Mariners' bullpen coach Stephen Vogt.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[cezero]

Yeah, I just saw that Vogt was interviewing with SF. I wish him all the best no matter what, but I also selfishly hope he stays here.

 

[wazzu31]

Would You:

Bieber
Naylor, Josh
Clase

For

France
Brash
Kelenic

Bieber has 1 year left on his contract. His K rate is half of what it was his Cy Young Year
Naylor has two years left. .308 AVG, 68 K's in 495 PA's.
Clase signed through 2026 with Team Options for 2027 & 2028. His ERA was over twice of 2022's.

If that is just the price then sure. But if that trade were to go down the Mariners still need to make other massive moves. IMO it upgrades the staff but is a net negative for the offense that is already losing Teo.

IMO that is a great trade in terms of they can trade Bieber at a later time. Would you want them to deal Woo and Miller for just a year of Bieber?

 

[Cloud]

Amazing what having a competent FO and a manager can do for you. The Rangers won 68 games last year, went out, got Seager and Bochy. now they’re 2 games away from an AL pennant.

 

[Drasci]

Amazing what having a competent FO and a manager can do for you. The Rangers won 68 games last year, went out, got Seager and Bochy. now they’re 2 games away from an AL pennant.

A good choice of organizational chart and roles of responsibility leads to good planning and results.

It's like this in all sports

 

[NWinAZ]

If that is just the price then sure. But if that trade were to go down the Mariners still need to make other massive moves. IMO it upgrades the staff but is a net negative for the offense that is already losing Teo.

IMO that is a great trade in terms of they can trade Bieber at a later time. Would you want them to deal Woo and Miller for just a year of Bieber?

I honestly don't see the offense as a negative. France is below average at everything. Kelenic is average at everything. Naylor makes contact and hits .300. I think he and whomever plays the outfield for Kelenic will be better than Kelenic and France. Then you have Bieber fora year. Even if his stuff has declined some, he would be a great addition to the staff.

Funny because originally I looked at a one for one with Woo or Miller for Bieber. I don't think I would do that. If you trade one of these two, it needs to be for a bat. We can realistically sign a pitcher. Maybe Snell if he wants to come home. I heard he owns part of that pizza franchise that just went into T-Mobile this year. Maybe he misses it...lol.

 

[NWinAZ]

Amazing what having a competent FO and a manager can do for you. The Rangers won 68 games last year, went out, got Seager and Bochy. now they’re 2 games away from an AL pennant.

I knew we were screwed when they sign Bochy. I have always been a huge believer that you can tell the intent of a franchise by who they sign to run it. If they sign a new guy, they want to keep control and winning is secondary. If you sign a legend, you are here to win. Good for them. I am jealous.

 

[Cloud]

I knew we were screwed when they sign Bochy. I have always been a huge believer that you can tell the intent of a franchise by who they sign to run it. If they sign a new guy, they want to keep control and winning is secondary. If you sign a legend, you are here to win. Good for them. I am jealous.

He was available at the end of 2019 until 2022. You can’t tell me the M’s can’t convince him out of retirement but the Rangers can? The M’s were in fact closer to winning than the Rangers prior to the Seager signing. Bochy would likely get them over that hump.

Given the core of young players from the system on their way up. To me that's an enticing gig. But, they truly want to keep Servais. Maybe it is true no one wants to come here.

 

[wazzu31]

I honestly don't see the offense as a negative. France is below average at everything. Kelenic is average at everything. Naylor makes contact and hits .300. I think he and whomever plays the outfield for Kelenic will be better than Kelenic and France. Then you have Bieber fora year. Even if his stuff has declined some, he would be a great addition to the staff.

Funny because originally I looked at a one for one with Woo or Miller for Bieber. I don't think I would do that. If you trade one of these two, it needs to be for a bat. We can realistically sign a pitcher. Maybe Snell if he wants to come home. I heard he owns part of that pizza franchise that just went into T-Mobile this year. Maybe he misses it...lol.

I’m just meaning in terms of they would have to subtract Kelenic. Isn’t a deal breaker or anything but they already have to figure out to replace Teo and then trying to replace another started, IMO, would be risky. They already have holes at 2B and 3B that they refuse to admit.

For sure if they want they could sign Snell (though for some reason I think they don’t want Snell). I’m not opposed to your idea, I’m just not confident in the front office legitimately trying to replace Teo so doubling non confident in them fielding a major league outfield if Kelenic is traded.

 

[ulmax]

If that is just the price then sure. But if that trade were to go down the Mariners still need to make other massive moves. IMO it upgrades the staff but is a net negative for the offense that is already losing Teo.

IMO that is a great trade in terms of they can trade Bieber at a later time. Would you want them to deal Woo and Miller for just a year of Bieber?

That is what..morosi..and passion..do..and media.
That..pimisses me off...
Ooooohh.

Yeah. That's..right..give Seattle..one year .
Of
Soto....sure ..It won't.hurt..morosi..

Morosi.and.passan..=duface..del godo

 

[ulmax]

For me the question..is not Snell..I know.
That one..it's ohtani..
And 30.mil..a year ...
And yet..that is the guy .they need .
And.fits.exactly...at..3 hitter..
Otani..may.be the best..player.in baseball..
But if ya can't afford...
The best..player..In baseball...it means.
Nothing..

 

[ulmax]

And really ..after..all..it could

come

down to that..

Ya want to be...the dodgers...or a pee on..