2017 Texas Rangers offseason thread

[saddles]

I wonder if the Rangers are close to having a penciled in rotation of Hamels, Perez, Bush and AJ with one opening?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Exactly. Finances were certainly involved because they couldn't have done it without a settlement being involved. It made no sense for him to state that finances had nothing to do with it.

He seems to be intimating by that part of his statement that they did it simply to gain a roster spot for the time period that Prince would have had to come back onto the roster. That was definitely why they chose to forego some of the insurance settlement, but they were never going to do this without reaching some kind of settlement. Therefore, fiances definitely had something to do with it.

I think he was saying the motivation to get this done was about the roster spot, not the finances.

 

[saddles]

I am enjoying the twitter arguments today about the wisdom of putting Bush into the rotation.

The way I see their history of doing so is as follows.

Successes:

Rogers
Wilson
Feldman



Incomplete due to Rangers vacillating:

Feliz
Ogando



Failures:

Ross
Scheppers

 

[saddles]

I think he was saying the motivation to get this done was about the roster spot, not the finances.

I agree with it being the motivation. I just don't agree that it wasn't about finances as it was described in the article. However, they didn't provide a direct quote so what JD actually said may have indicated he meant motivation.

 

[Kelleyman]

I wonder if the Rangers are close to having a penciled in rotation of Hamels, Perez, Bush and AJ with one opening?

No not close and I think AJ is more likely to only be considered a fill in starter. What do you think?

 

[DT LUNA]

No not close and I think AJ is more likely to only be considered a fill in starter. What do you think?

Just to early to have any idea .

 

[Duane1952]

I wonder if the Rangers are close to having a penciled in rotation of Hamels, Perez, Bush and AJ with one opening?

Hope not. Will have a hard time making the playoffs with that rotation. Really don't want to see AJ in the starting rotation.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I agree with it being the motivation. I just don't agree that it wasn't about finances as it was described in the article. However, they didn't provide a direct quote so what JD actually said may have indicated he meant motivation.

I guess I just don’t understand. Oh well.

 

[Kelleyman]

I guess I just don’t understand. Oh well.

Hmmm insurance company willing to pay less likely for lump sum cash up front to Rangers aka insurance settlement. Rangers willing to take less in exchange for roster spot. Evidently both thought it was a fair trade.

Let's not kid ourselves. The Rangers are a business org. However I do think perhaps naively that they want to win a WS for non financial reasons as well.

Both can coexist

 

[saddles]

Hmmm insurance company willing to pay less likely for lump sum cash up front to Rangers aka insurance settlement. Rangers willing to take less in exchange for roster spot. Evidently both thought it was a fair trade.

Let's not kid ourselves. The Rangers are a business org. However I do think perhaps naively that they want to win a WS for non financial reasons as well.

Both can coexist

I don't think you understood what he didn't understand. lol

It is as clear as mud around here.

 

[saddles]

Rangers rebuild? Not for 2018, despite pitching needs

The Rangers will go about their off-season work with an open mind, from the very top of the free-agent market to the under-the-radar types who could make a positive impact.


But Daniels said that the Rangers won’t have as much money to spend for 2018 as they did for 2017, as their payroll returns to the 2016 level of around $155 million rather than the $165 million they had on their Opening Day payroll this season.


The Rangers, he said, need to “add wisely” as they acquire arms, either by money-whipping a free agent or via trade with another organization.



“The pitching side is where we’re going to be the most active from an acquisition standpoint and what we’re looking to do this winter,” Daniels said. “We probably have two starters and four relievers we can pencil in right now and a number of other guys in competition.


“Sometimes smart is the top-of-the-market moves. Sometimes the best moves are Yu Darvish and Cole Hamels and Joe Nathan. Sometimes the best moves are Jake Diekman and Colby Lewis.”



The club might not pursue a closer, Daniels said, but is likely to add a veteran arm that can help guide the young relievers through the course of a 162-game season.


Nick Martinez, Austin Bibens-Dirkx and A.J. Griffin are among the internal candidates for the rotation, while Diekman, Bush, Keone Kela and Alex Claudio could compete in spring training to be the closer.

 

[donaldson79]

I doubt any team offers him much more than the 10M he got from us so if I were offered a QO of 18M I would jump on it

How many players have ever taken the QA? Just wondering since you think in this particular case it's such a done deal.

 

[DT LUNA]

Rangers rebuild? Not for 2018, despite pitching needs

The Rangers will go about their off-season work with an open mind, from the very top of the free-agent market to the under-the-radar types who could make a positive impact.


But Daniels said that the Rangers won’t have as much money to spend for 2018 as they did for 2017, as their payroll returns to the 2016 level of around $155 million rather than the $165 million they had on their Opening Day payroll this season.


The Rangers, he said, need to “add wisely” as they acquire arms, either by money-whipping a free agent or via trade with another organization.



“The pitching side is where we’re going to be the most active from an acquisition standpoint and what we’re looking to do this winter,” Daniels said. “We probably have two starters and four relievers we can pencil in right now and a number of other guys in competition.


“Sometimes smart is the top-of-the-market moves. Sometimes the best moves are Yu Darvish and Cole Hamels and Joe Nathan. Sometimes the best moves are Jake Diekman and Colby Lewis.”



The club might not pursue a closer, Daniels said, but is likely to add a veteran arm that can help guide the young relievers through the course of a 162-game season.


Nick Martinez, Austin Bibens-Dirkx and A.J. Griffin are among the internal candidates for the rotation, while Diekman, Bush, Keone Kela and Alex Claudio could compete in spring training to be the closer.

I really don't see Nick Martinez being part of the rotation. He has had plenty of time to develop and hasn't. Donot see a place for him. ABD and Griffin maybe as a spot starter.

 

[donaldson79]

In today's Ephland Show Useless Trivia:

The only two MLB teams in the Mountain Time Zone face off in the NL Wild Card.

Boy-O-boy that it worthless.......keep your sense-of-humor there young man......Oh wait, you're actually an old timer.......My bad.

 

[DT LUNA]

How many players have ever taken the QA? Just wondering since you think in this particular case it's such a done deal.

Haha. I knew that could not escape untouched. lollol

 

[donaldson79]

I wonder if the Rangers are close to having a penciled in rotation of Hamels, Perez, Bush and AJ with one opening?

I'm in the Davis Mts with periodic net capabilities......Bush is now a consideration as a starter? Why? How? When did this "rumor" start?

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I'm in the Davis Mts with periodic net capabilities......Bush is now a consideration as a starter? Why? How? When did this "rumor" start?

Not a rumor. Rangers are discussing it.

 

[DT LUNA]

I'm in the Davis Mts with periodic net capabilities......Bush is now a consideration as a starter? Why? How? When did this "rumor" start?

A interview with JD says Bush may be considered . Also made it clear we are in on Ohtani.
See #173.

 

[donaldson79]

Lucroy with 2 doubles, 1 RBI, and Desmond with a pathetic K from the former Ranger standpoint this evening.

 

[DT LUNA]

A interview with JD says Bush may be considered . Also made it clear we are in on Ohtani.
See #173.

Is it nice out there in the mts.