Why the Vikings didn't overpay for Sam Bradford...

[27mtrcougar]

NFL Week 5 Scouting Notebook: Is Sam Bradford Joining NFL's Elite?

Nice read on Bradford… That throw he makes in the video from the far hash mark all the way back across the field is ridiculous good!

 

[Great Dayne]

Bradford has never been a good QB but he just takes the easy dink donks that the defense gives him in screens and check downs.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Bradford has never been a good QB but he just takes the easy dink donks that the defense gives him in screens and check downs.

This always makes me laugh when people say this about Bradford. He really has never had a WR in his career to stretch the field? one exception was Chris Givens in STL and I believe Bradford set a record with 5 straight games with a 50 yard or longer pass play connecting with him. NFL Teams respect his arm strength and accuracy so they give him the short stuff because they don't want to get burned deep which you are seeing now in Minnesota because he has a couple weapons he can go too. Also the Dink Dunk people want to talk like its some kinda comp out. The truth is you have to be very accurate passer to be successful at it. Hitting WR's in stride and location. A lot of QB's are not capable of doing it on a consistent basises and they force the ball downfield and get picked. A 5 yard pass counts the same as a 5 yard run the last time I checked.

 

[PhillyGreen]

Bradford has never been a good QB but he just takes the easy dink donks that the defense gives him in screens and check downs.

I am sorry but this is just stupid. For the record a good QB will always takes what the defense gives you. A QB that always forces the ball will eventually be unemployed QB. I am not a fan of dink and dunk but it is the staple playbook for any offense built on the WCO system. Offensively the Vikes are not a powerhouse without AP. The Vikes success is predicated on how well the defense does.

 

[BigFin]

So, do the Vikings trade TB for a 2nd rounder to make up for the lost pick? Miami on Line 1...

 

[27mtrcougar]

So, do the Vikings trade TB for a 2nd rounder to make up for the lost pick? Miami on Line 1...

I find this will be a fascinating story in the offseason. Say Bradford wins a couple playoff games this year maybe loses in the NFCCG what do the Vikes do? from what they are saying now TB won't be ready till after camp next year. My guess is Bradford will be the QB next year while TB gets healthy. then the Vikes will be able to trade one of them. which one will be the question. Bradford is still only 28. It will cost you more then a 2nd round pick though.

 

[chf]

This always makes me laugh when people say this about Bradford. He really has never had a WR in his career to stretch the field? one exception was Chris Givens in STL and I believe Bradford set a record with 5 straight games with a 50 yard or longer pass play connecting with him. NFL Teams respect his arm strength and accuracy so they give him the short stuff because they don't want to get burned deep which you are seeing now in Minnesota because he has a couple weapons he can go too. Also the Dink Dunk people want to talk like its some kinda comp out. The truth is you have to be very accurate passer to be successful at it. Hitting WR's in stride and location. A lot of QB's are not capable of doing it on a consistent basises and they force the ball downfield and get picked. A 5 yard pass counts the same as a 5 yard run the last time I checked.

Because that style (dink and dunk) means that you have to be perfect to win. Matt Hasselbeck was a really good short to medium QB. He SUCKED throwing deep, so next to no big chunk plays, even when sometimes the WR's would be wide open.

That can get you to a Superbowl even, but sadly, not win one (unless everything goes PERFECTLY).

Now I'll admit that my perception of Bradford may be skewed, since almost all the games I watched him play were vs the Seahawks, who usually got decent pressure, but I don't remember him hitting chunk plays either.

Maybe the Viking will get to the Superbowl like Hass did in '05.

Certainly their D is better than that Seattle teams was.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Because that style (dink and dunk) means that you have to be perfect to win. Matt Hasselbeck was a really good short to medium QB. He SUCKED throwing deep, so next to no big chunk plays, even when sometimes the WR's would be wide open.

That can get you to a Superbowl even, but sadly, not win one (unless everything goes PERFECTLY).

Now I'll admit that my perception of Bradford may be skewed, since almost all the games I watched him play were vs the Seahawks, who usually got decent pressure, but I don't remember him hitting chunk plays either.

Maybe the Viking will get to the Superbowl like Hass did in '05.

Certainly their D is better than that Seattle teams was.

Bradford throws a great deep ball when he has time. He can make any throw. That is why teams have no problem giving up picks to get him.

 

[chf]

Bradford throws a great deep ball when he has time. He can make any throw. That is why teams have no problem giving up picks to get him.

Right, and that's a pretty big condition. Because the thing I remember about him a LOT vs the Hawks was happy feet, and not being willing to stand in and deliver if the rush was around him. And not even really needing to blast him, but just get NEAR him to make him nervous.

Given the Vikes lack of a running game, as they play stronger squads, playoffs particularly, he's going to have to take some abuse, and stand in there.

Maybe he'll do it.

I didn't see it in 2 games every year for years.

Admittedly, I saw few Rams games vs other teams, and haven't yet watched a Vikes game this season.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Right, and that's a pretty big condition. Because the thing I remember about him a LOT vs the Hawks was happy feet, and not being willing to stand in and deliver if the rush was around him. And not even really needing to blast him, but just get NEAR him to make him nervous.

Given the Vikes lack of a running game, as they play stronger squads, playoffs particularly, he's going to have to take some abuse, and stand in there.

Maybe he'll do it.

I didn't see it in 2 games every year for years.

Admittedly, I saw few Rams games vs other teams, and haven't yet watched a Vikes game this season.

The Vikes have the 3rd worst Oline in the NFL. He has taken some massive shots this season already. Ironically the only two teams with worst Olines are the Rams and Seahawks. Watch the video you will see him stand in there and take a big time shot as he delivers a perfect pass for a TD.

 

[bt08]

he got absolutely lit up by Mercelus sp? of Houston, slammed to the turf with a wicked head snap , but not before standing in and delivering an on target throw to J Wright on 3rd down for a 1st down, got right back up

 

[LambeauLegs]

Maybe its just that Bradford cant play in Philly?

 

[bt08]

Maybe its just that Bradford cant play in Philly?

he didn't well but the Eagles D showed up and gave the Vikes protection fits

 

[LambeauLegs]

he didn't well but the Eagles D showed up and gave the Vikes protection fits

Yea and me being the homer played the Packer D this week against the Bears thinking that may be better than using my other team the Eagles against the Vikes

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Yea and me being the homer played the Packer D this week against the Bears thinking that may be better than using my other team the Eagles against the Vikes

Benched my Eagles D this week... But for the Giants D. So not bad. lol

 

[SonnyCID]

He was expected to shoulder the load against a good defense and he couldn't rise to the occasion. It's why he won't do squat come January

 

[L.Freamon]

Same ol' Sammy as far as i could tell.

 

[bt08]

He was expected to shoulder the load against a good defense and he couldn't rise to the occasion. It's why he won't do squat come January

did you watch the game? his O line and overall protection was shit today.

 

[Moab]

did you watch the game? his O line and overall protection was shit today.

...and that will change in Jan, how?

 

[bt08]

...and that will change in Jan, how?

I don't know, what is your crystal ball telling you?