More likely that they'll go independent. They would keep the UCLA and Notre Dame rivalries, and possibly Stanford/Cal.
This isn't happening.. Asu would be a better choice and Arizona although I think both will be in.More likely a merger between the PAC and Big 12:
West:
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Arizona
Utah
East:
Texas
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
Oklahoma
Colorado
Kansas
I think Okie Lite is more likely than Texas Tech, Baylor or TCU. But, I never thought Missouri would be considered in the Southeast nor would Syracuse/Pittsburgh be considered on the Atlantic Coast. So, what the hell do I know.More likely a merger between the PAC and Big 12:
West:
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Arizona
Utah
East:
Texas
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
Oklahoma
Colorado
Kansas
This isn't happening.. Asu would be a better choice and Arizona although I think both will be in.
If I'm bowlsby, I'd put the full court press on SC.. You get them then it really opens up all the doors. My first four would be SC, ucla, asu and AZ
I think Okie Lite is more likely than Texas Tech, Baylor or TCU. But, I never thought Missouri would be considered in the Southeast nor would Syracuse/Pittsburgh be considered on the Atlantic Coast. So, what the hell do I know.
Texas Tech is in Texas. Texas is one of the states everyone wants to recruit. Oklahoma, not as much. And bringing in OU already gives you the OKC market. Oklahoma State is probably the better program right now but you build conferences for the future, not just the next season.
Texas Tech is in Texas. Texas is one of the states everyone wants to recruit. Oklahoma, not as much. And bringing in OU already gives you the OKC market. Oklahoma State is probably the better program right now but you build conferences for the future, not just the next season.
Interesting
oklahoma state isn't getting left out. And the Big 12 does have the leverage if it wants to grab both schools in the ever growing AZ state. You add both SoCal schools.. the money will definitely be there. THose 4 would be a great expansion scenario.Texas Tech is in Texas. Texas is one of the states everyone wants to recruit. Oklahoma, not as much. And bringing in OU already gives you the OKC market. Oklahoma State is probably the better program right now but you build conferences for the future, not just the next season.
Look at their results on the field for the last 10 seasons
Well Oklahoma has won the last 5 years in a row, so...
Look at their results on the field for the last 10 seasons. Oklahoma State has been better than Texas Tech
oklahoma state isn't getting left out. And the Big 12 does have the leverage if it wants to grab both schools in the ever growing AZ state. You add both SoCal schools.. the money will definitely be there. THose 4 would be a great expansion scenario.
Now if this was going to be a new conference merger then yes I agree about some dead weight being dropped. One of Baylor and tcu should be dropped, along with WV. Unlike most I like both isu and ksu .
Big8div= UT, tech, ou, osu, isu, ksu, ks, and one of tcu/baylor
Pac8div= SC, ucla, az, asu, cal, UW, O, Stanford.
With this you could make a case for both TCu and baylor being left out in order to get colorado as well.
Sounded like you were saying Oklahoma state is the better program than OKLAHOMA
oklahoma state isn't getting left out. And the Big 12 does have the leverage if it wants to grab both schools in the ever growing AZ state. You add both SoCal schools.. the money will definitely be there. THose 4 would be a great expansion scenario.
Now if this was going to be a new conference merger then yes I agree about some dead weight being dropped. One of Baylor and tcu should be dropped, along with WV. Unlike most I like both isu and ksu .
Big8div= UT, tech, ou, osu, isu, ksu, ks, and one of tcu/baylor
Pac8div= SC, ucla, az, asu, cal, UW, O, Stanford.
With this you could make a case for both TCu and baylor being left out in order to get colorado as well.
Clearly it wasn't, since I wasn't the only one who misunderstood.If you read the post I was responding to, it was clear the discussion was about Oklahoma State and Texas tech