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Josh ges 2-2 against Miami for 32 yards
Edelman back in business.

Last time the Colts beat the Patriots, Peyton was the QB.
Colts are 29th against the run. We will use the run to set up a big passing day!
I like it. I'm keeping White in my FFL line up.
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No, you can't just cut an injured player. Usually if the team wants to cut their losses, they negotiate an injury settlement.

Per Article 44 of the CBA:

An “Injury Grievance” is a claim or complaint that, at the time a player’s NFL Player Contract or Practice Squad Player Contract was terminated by a Club, the player was physically unable to perform the services required of him by that contract because of an injury incurred in the performance of his services under that contract.
 
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No, you can't just cut an injured player. Usually if the team wants to cut their losses, they negotiate an injury settlement.

Per Article 44 of the CBA:

An “Injury Grievance” is a claim or complaint that, at the time a player’s NFL Player Contract or Practice Squad Player Contract was terminated by a Club, the player was physically unable to perform the services required of him by that contract because of an injury incurred in the performance of his services under that contract.
But they can cut a player based on performance or lack of performance? Weren't these two cut pre-season can't the Pats just say we went in a different direction at that position?
 

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Could it be that the Pats knew there'd be a grievance and they'd have to pay and are hoping to lower the salary either via negotiation or via an arbitrator since the article claims 40% of the salary counts against the cap?
 

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Could it be that the Pats knew there'd be a grievance and they'd have to pay and are hoping to lower the salary either via negotiation or via an arbitrator since the article claims 40% of the salary counts against the cap?
If they expected a grievance and wanted to lower the cap impact, it would've been in their best interest to negotiate an injury settlement. So I'd like to believe that their medical people had indicated to BB that they were both healthy enough to find work elsewhere. It would be a bad look for them to be knowingly cutting injured players to avoid dead money on the cap.

But they can cut a player based on performance or lack of performance? Weren't these two cut pre-season can't the Pats just say we went in a different direction at that position?
Yes they were cut pre-season but they were under contract and had passed pre-camp physicals and participated in training camp on the field. The start of the regular season is irrelevant. So the Pats are well within their rights to claim the cuts were strictly performance-related, but if the players can convince the arbitrators they weren't healthy enough to play somewhere else, the Pats will be on the hook for their salaries.
 

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If the injury was so severe, they would have put him on IR and the isurancewould ciover it. Putting him on IR would have allieviated the count against the cap. They released him because "HE" continually complained of a hamstring and the medical guys kept working on it. Problem is that Britt got used to being paid and doing nothing and he wasn't ready to get cut and not get paid.

Mitchell is a mystery. He was cut and tried out for other teams.
 

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If the injury was so severe, they would have put him on IR and the isurancewould ciover it. Putting him on IR would have allieviated the count against the cap. They released him because "HE" continually complained of a hamstring and the medical guys kept working on it. Problem is that Britt got used to being paid and doing nothing and he wasn't ready to get cut and not get paid.

Mitchell is a mystery. He was cut and tried out for other teams.


Hopefully they have MRI/Cat Scans/etc. to prove they made a sound decision based on actual defensible medical knowledge.
 

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Business end of things is always difficult. It will settle and the Pats can afford to pay. It will be forgotten as soon as the checks clear. Good luck to Mitchell. Hope Britt ends up with the Dolphins.....
 

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Look for a scoring extravaganza next Sunday. NE 10 days to prepare, plenty of time to get JE11 some more reps, Gronk time to heal up and Gordon another 10 days to rest the hammy and gain trust in TB12.

It may come down to which defense can make a stop.
 

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If the injury was so severe, they would have put him on IR and the isurancewould ciover it. Putting him on IR would have allieviated the count against the cap. They released him because "HE" continually complained of a hamstring and the medical guys kept working on it. Problem is that Britt got used to being paid and doing nothing and he wasn't ready to get cut and not get paid.

Mitchell is a mystery. He was cut and tried out for other teams.

I realize this is tabloid talk...

NFL Rumors - ProFootballRumors.com

  • Former Patriots wide receiver Malcolm Mitchell underwent yet another surgery on his knee two days after New England released him, according to Kevin Duffy of the Boston Herald. The Pats cut Mitchell, a 2016 fourth-round pick, in August after failing to trade him. Injury issues have derailed the Georgia product’s career, as he missed the entire 2017 campaign and was unable to fully participate in practice this offseason after undergoing a minor procedure on his knee. After being waived, Mitchell filed a grievance against the Patriots, arguing that he should be paid his entire 2018 base salary ($640K). Per Duffy, Mitchell is still working out with the hope of returning to the NFL, although he has no timetable for recovery.


So he had another surgery two days after he was cut. Was that before he tried out for other teams, or after?
 

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Braxton Berrios .....Show me in preseason
5' 9" 190
Julian Edelman...Enough said
5' 10"
Bruce Ellington.......Camp body
5' 9" 200
Josh Gordon ......... When?
6' 3" 225
Maurice Harris .......Camp body?
6' 3" 200
Damoun Patterson .....Camp body
6' 2" 190
Phillip Dorsett............More play this year?

Hogan unsigned.......

So we still have only 1 receiver......

Who needs WRs anyway?

Marty Bennett returns.
NE snatches one of the top TEs in the draft.

Lots of three TE packages.

Run heavy offense.

That explains bringing back Bolden:doh:
 

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Braxton Berrios .....Show me in preseason
5' 9" 190
Julian Edelman...Enough said
5' 10"
Bruce Ellington.......Camp body
5' 9" 200
Josh Gordon ......... When?
6' 3" 225
Maurice Harris .......Camp body?
6' 3" 200
Damoun Patterson .....Camp body
6' 2" 190
Phillip Dorsett............More play this year?

Hogan unsigned.......

Bruce Ellington.......Will be gone by 8/31
5' 9" 200
Josh Gordon ......... Will return week 10.......suspended for at least the first 10 games
6' 3" 225
Maurice Harris .......Will be Hogan's replacement
6' 3" 200
Damoun Patterson .....50/50.....will stay if the Patriots cannot sign (Nelson or Cobb)or trade for better.
6' 2" 190
 
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