Michael Jordan is a fraud

[tlance]

What's even worse is every time LeWhine is called, he is screaming at the refs like he didn't do anything wrong, lol.

I don't remember Jordan or Kobe ever doing that... nor do I remember them not dribbling the ball half the time.

Oh, they complained to the refs plenty. Just like almost every other modern era NBA superstar.

And neither of them were ever vilified for it.

 

[trojanfan12]

What's even worse is every time LeWhine is called, he is screaming at the refs like he didn't do anything wrong, lol.

I don't remember Jordan or Kobe ever doing that... nor do I remember them not dribbling the ball half the time.

You don't remember Jordan or Kobe doing that?

Seriously?!?

Did you not watch any of their games?

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

You don't remember Jordan or Kobe doing that?

Seriously?!?

Did you not watch any of their games?

I mean they did at times. I just don't recall them being as bitchy about it. I'll admit I didn't watch a lot of Kobe, I can warrant Jordan a bit because that's when the arm bar existed and before the NBA was a giant puss filled offensive league that calls defensive fouls on every other play. Shaq also was a guy that just played through it.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I mean they did at times. I just don't recall them being as bitchy about it. I'll admit I didn't watch a lot of Kobe, I can warrant Jordan a bit because that's when the arm bar existed and before the NBA was a giant puss filled offensive league that calls defensive fouls on every other play. Shaq also was a guy that just played through it.

There are less fouls called now then in the 90s. With substantially more possessions.

 

[tlance]

There are less fouls called now then in the 90s. With substantially more possessions.

Don’t let facts get in the way of misguided opinions.

 

[trojanfan12]

I mean they did at times. I just don't recall them being as bitchy about it. I'll admit I didn't watch a lot of Kobe, I can warrant Jordan a bit because that's when the arm bar existed and before the NBA was a giant puss filled offensive league that calls defensive fouls on every other play. Shaq also was a guy that just played through it.

Kobe called a ref a fag, ffs.

 

[Wamu]

Kobe called a ref a fag, ffs.

I hope he said that to Joey Crawford.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Kobe called a ref a fag, ffs.

Well if it was in LA it was probably true... he was just being respectful.

 

[trojanfan12]

I hope he said that to Joey Crawford.

I forget who the ref was...but it was a televised game (national, I believe) and got caught on camera. Had to apologize to the gays for it. lol

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

You are wrong again. Let’s review:
1. You said Russell was taller than everyone else by multiple inches. That’s wrong. I proved he was an average height center
2. You say there were 10 teams at most when he played, there were 12-14 in his last 3-4 titles

You keep saying incorrect narratives then try to dance and move the goalposts when you get busted

Why don't you address the points in the post you quoted instead of another post? Russel's offensive game did resemble Ben Wallace much more so than an all time great. Now Russell was great and the greatest winner in American sports history. But let's not pretend the team he played for didn't play a role in that and had he played for the Hawks his reputation would be totally different.

As for Jordan vs LeBron recently I had to admit that it may be LeBron even though I can't stand that son of a bitch. What he is doing at his age, well Jordan never did that.

 

[dtgold88]

Jordan is the goat. Kobe played in a giant pussy league where the arm bar and any form of physical contact was not allowed.

It's too bad that Kobe died in a helicopter and I feel bad for the guy and his family, but putting him on the same level as Jordan is fuckin' insane.

Jordan was the only undefendable player in NBA history.. and fuck off to anyone putting LeFlop in that category.. that bitch was the definition of traveling. LaTravel.. if James has any respect he should change his name to that.

"Undefendable"? How is it possible then that defenders were able to force MJ into a higher % of misses than they do Lebron if not mistaken?

 

[dtgold88]

Nobody, NOBODY was at Mikes level, dude ran circles around everyone … My first pick building a franchise would be Mike, period..

That's cool and all and sure a good case could be made to take him first.....but ending an opinion with "period", "lol", etc. wont make it a fact.

 

[dtgold88]

Game on the line Kobe = Give me the ball.
LeBron = Excuse me I need to use the restroom

Lebron was actually a lot better than Kobe in these situations....but sure.

 

[dtgold88]

Again Kobe wanted the ball, LeBron doesn't.

Think you meant to say Kobe was going to shoot even if a bad shot and Lebron might find a teammate for a better shot if not there for him?

 

[dtgold88]

You do understand Kobe took many more last second shots than LeBron.

Again Kobe wasn't going to shy away, while LeBron often slid away from that spotlight

so don't bother you with the actual facts of what really happened......got it.

If making it up anyway (lying) try to be more creative.

 

[dtgold88]

I do understand last second plays are called during a Timeout, great players want the ball. Bird wanted the ball and would even tell the other team the play.

When it got tough LeBron pulled into his shell.

when it got tough Kobe.....missed.

 

[dtgold88]

This is not the forum where you can just make shit up and we're gonna go "oh yeah totally"

Not really sure the true nuthuggers have ever come up with a true fact to make their case.

 

[msgkings322]

Not really sure the true nuthuggers have ever come up with a true fact to make their case.

There are plenty of true facts to make the case for MJ, they just make up a lot more shit on top of it

 

[dtgold88]

It's actually up to you to provide proof of your claim. It's odd I have to even explain this.

How does debate work when all you do is make a claim, and when someone asks you to prove it, you just say "Hey, just google it".

LOL

Yeah never understood this "logic". someone makes a claim you think is factually incorrect and you are expected to find proof of something that does not exist?

 

[dtgold88]

There are plenty of true facts to make the case for MJ, they just make up a lot more shit on top of it

Did believe this when I made that comment. Facts like more rings, etc.....which are easily refuted with other facts.

Not that I want to disparage MJ who very well may be the GOAT.