Huskies 2019 season

[WizardHawk]

They pride themselves on the details and fundamentals and have no clue what the mechanics of a throw are supposed to be. Just inexcusable.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Just how fvcked up is the coaching staff ... at least for QB development .. read the bottom part of this article.

Where UW Huskies UDFAs are signing: Jake Browning gets record signing bonus

Seattle Times did a pretty good article on it if you click on the link which I assume they included in that article.

Idk if it's the fault of the coaching staff for not identifying Browning not using his hips and his lower body in his throws. People like to criticize the nerds/analytics aspect creeping into sports, but this is an example of where this approach can help identify and improve deficiencies.

For what it's worth I can't entirely blame them for not identifying this issue. He went to an organization that specializes in QB development and biometrics that in all likelihood has more employees than the Huskies have coaches.

 

[seahawksfan234]

That was all in that article I linked pre draft where he talked about that 3 month stint. The quote in this was taken right from that. And yeah, that's why I was pissed off at the staff when that article came out.

There is zero excuse for a top flight college football staff to have a kid that hasn't ever played baseball or golf and had no understanding of how to use the lower body to add more power and not have the staff recognize that and develop it.

So what obvious things are they not finding/fixing with the current guys?

I'm somewhat playing devil's advocate on this, but whatever changes that Browning made were probably so minute that you wouldn't even be able to notice it aside from the velocity of his throws.

Think of it like this: When Browning went to that QB development group, he probably had over a dozen people dedicated to pouring over tons of data to find the issue. The Seattle Times article I believe likely simplified it so it was in laymen's terms, but I can't imagine that any college football team has the resources to dedicate an entire group of people just to improve one flaw in a player's game.

I don't know. Perhaps this issue could have been addressed earlier, but I'm just trying to give the Huskies the benefit of the doubt. I just see it as one QB coach trying to develop 4 or so guys versus an entire highly paid team of people working with one guy at a time.

 

[WizardHawk]

I'm somewhat playing devil's advocate on this, but whatever changes that Browning made were probably so minute that you wouldn't even be able to notice it aside from the velocity of his throws.

Think of it like this: When Browning went to that QB development group, he probably had over a dozen people dedicated to pouring over tons of data to find the issue. The Seattle Times article I believe likely simplified it so it was in laymen's terms, but I can't imagine that any college football team has the resources to dedicate an entire group of people just to improve one flaw in a player's game.

I don't know. Perhaps this issue could have been addressed earlier, but I'm just trying to give the Huskies the benefit of the doubt. I just see it as one QB coach trying to develop 4 or so guys versus an entire highly paid team of people working with one guy at a time.

If it makes you feel better, sure. Do you have confidence they are finding/helping the deficiencies of Eason and Haener? I still see Haener making the same mistakes and so far Eason hasn't looked sharp. Again, yes they are without their top receivers, but I'm just talking form, mechanics, and fundamentals.

I just expect more. They have the talent.

 

[seahawksfan234]

If it makes you feel better, sure. Do you have confidence they are finding/helping the deficiencies of Eason and Haener? I still see Haener making the same mistakes and so far Eason hasn't looked sharp. Again, yes they are without their top receivers, but I'm just talking form, mechanics, and fundamentals.

I just expect more. They have the talent.

Do I have confidence they are finding/helping the deficiencies of Eason and Haener? I don't know. I don't lack confidence, but I don't necessarily have confidence. Things like this are difficult to determine. Browning's improvement when this was spotted I feel like was more of an aberration that I hope/don't think reflects the competency of the UW staff at QB development.

So far the performances by Eason and Haener leave a lot to be desired, but I can't read too much into Spring practices. Albeit if they were tearing it up, I probably wouldn't be dismissing it as I am now.

Personally I don't think I'm going to worry too much until I see them in a live game.

 

[RegentDenali]

UW stock has to be at an all time high when it comes recruiting considering what we just sent to the NFL. I hope they continue to take advantage of this cred.

 

[WizardHawk]

Do I have confidence they are finding/helping the deficiencies of Eason and Haener? I don't know. I don't lack confidence, but I don't necessarily have confidence. Things like this are difficult to determine. Browning's improvement when this was spotted I feel like was more of an aberration that I hope/don't think reflects the competency of the UW staff at QB development.

So far the performances by Eason and Haener leave a lot to be desired, but I can't read too much into Spring practices. Albeit if they were tearing it up, I probably wouldn't be dismissing it as I am now.

Personally I don't think I'm going to worry too much until I see them in a live game.

I'll believe this staff can put it all together and make a worthy elite level offense... when they actually do so. They are killer on defense and inconsistent on special teams, but haven't put it together on the other side of the ball yet.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I'll believe this staff can put it all together and make a worthy elite level offense... when they actually do so. They are killer on defense and inconsistent on special teams, but haven't put it together on the other side of the ball yet.

I'm with you there.

So far I have not a fan of Bush Hamden and have a bad feeling we're going to be frustrated with him again in 2019. I think Chris Petersen is a great head coach and I believe in his philosophy, but I wish he would be more willing to bring in someone who wasn't one of "his guys." Obviously this is purely speculative, but I feel like the Husky offense would've been better in 2018 if they had an experienced play caller.

Difficult to quantify the impact that Jeff Tedford had as an assistant with us, but the offense was much better when he was on the staff.

 

[WizardHawk]

I'm with you there.

So far I have not a fan of Bush Hamden and have a bad feeling we're going to be frustrated with him again in 2019. I think Chris Petersen is a great head coach and I believe in his philosophy, but I wish he would be more willing to bring in someone who wasn't one of "his guys." Obviously this is purely speculative, but I feel like the Husky offense would've been better in 2018 if they had an experienced play caller.

Difficult to quantify the impact that Jeff Tedford had as an assistant with us, but the offense was much better when he was on the staff.

Exactly, it was trending up with Tedford around, and then dropped kind of hard when he moved on. Hamdan's young and likely has a bright future ahead of him, but he's not experienced enough to make those leaps without some kind of mentor. And it would seem Petersen is not one directly.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

UW stock has to be at an all time high when it comes recruiting considering what we just sent to the NFL. I hope they continue to take advantage of this cred.

This ^^ ... they need to use this as advertising to these recruits.

 

[WizardHawk]

Ok, and use some of that cred to get some really smart offensive gurus around the program as well.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Ok, and use some of that cred to get some really smart offensive gurus around the program as well.

I wouldn't mind seeing UW go after SC's new OC .. Graham Herrell.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[mcnabb7542]

I'm not going to point fingers at the coaching staff about Jake's arm strength until they comment on it.
It's very easy they were or attempted to alter his mechanics and he didn't listen....

Always two sides to a story

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Washington Huskies selected in this year's NFL draft:

First round
Kaleb McGary, OT: Atlanta (4* recruit)

Second round
Byron Murphy, CB: Arizona (4* recruit)
Drew Sample, TE: Cincinnati (3* recruit)
Taylor Rapp, S: Los Angeles Rams (3* recruit)

Fourth round
Greg Gaines, DT: Los Angeles Rams (3* recruit)

Fifth round
Ben Burr-Kirven, LB: Seattle (3* recruit)
Jordan Miller, CB: Atlanta (3* recruit)

Seventh round
Myles Gaskin, RB: Miami (3* recruit)

And within minutes after the draft was completed these Huskies signed as free agents:

Jake Browning, QB: Minnesota (4* recruit)
JoJo McIntosh, S: Washington (3* recruit)
Jaylen Johnson, SDE, Denver (3* recruit)

Add another 3* rated recruit to the list ...

 

[seahawksfan234]

Exactly, it was trending up with Tedford around, and then dropped kind of hard when he moved on. Hamdan's young and likely has a bright future ahead of him, but he's not experienced enough to make those leaps without some kind of mentor. And it would seem Petersen is not one directly.

I have my fingers crossed that Hamden will improve, but I'm not willing to bet on it. I expect more of the same in 2019, but hopefully I'm wrong.

It's tough to argue that Hamden showed much improvement as a play caller throughout 2019.

I love Petersen to death, but I have a bad feeling that if Hamden has another mediocre showing as offensive coordinator, Petersen won't cut the cord. If Petersen actually did move on from Hamden, he hasn't shown anything that indicates to me he'd hire someone that isn't one of "his guys" which really limits the talent pool/experience he'd have to choose from.

Another concern of mine is that I don't think Petersen is willing to deviate from what he wants the offense to look like. If Eason wins the starting job, I don't really see his strengths matching up with what the Petersen-led offenses like to do.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I wouldn't mind seeing UW go after SC's new OC .. Graham Herrell.

Verdict is still out as to how Harrell will perform as a play caller, but he's a really smart guy. Odds are the Trojans disappoint and replace Clay Helton which would mean Harrell would likely be available whenever Helton's replacement is cleans house.

Hearing his name and looking at his Wikipedia page suddenly made me feel really old. I remember being in high school when he was putting up video game numbers under Mike Leach at Texas Tech.

I just hope that when Bush Hamden inevitably disappoints, Petersen will actually replace him with someone who isn't one of his guys. Petersen is definitely a top-10 CFB HC, but I think his biggest limitation is that he doesn't really seem willing to add someone to the coaching staff that isn't one of his guys. He's quite limited when he doesn't look outside of his circle to hire someone.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Verdict is still out as to how Harrell will perform as a play caller, but he's a really smart guy. Odds are the Trojans disappoint and replace Clay Helton which would mean Harrell would likely be available whenever Helton's replacement is cleans house.

Hearing his name and looking at his Wikipedia page suddenly made me feel really old. I remember being in high school when he was putting up video game numbers under Mike Leach at Texas Tech.

I just hope that when Bush Hamden inevitably disappoints, Petersen will actually replace him with someone who isn't one of his guys. Petersen is definitely a top-10 CFB HC, but I think his biggest limitation is that he doesn't really seem willing to add someone to the coaching staff that isn't one of his guys. He's quite limited when he doesn't look outside of his circle to hire someone.

I don't think USC is going to settle for anything less than a big name hire if Helton gets the ax. Agreed big time on Petersen keeping a small circle in regards to hiring coaches. He needs to expand.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I don't think USC is going to settle for anything less than a big name hire if Helton gets the ax. Agreed big time on Petersen keeping a small circle in regards to hiring coaches. He needs to expand.

My friend is convinced that Urban Meyer is retired for real this time, but I'm willing to bet that he gets that itch to return to coaching again and the opportunity at USC will be too good for him to pass up.

Unless Helton and the Trojans really surprise some people, he's likely out. I was honestly surprised they didn't fire him after 2018.

 

[AlaskaGuy]