Deshaun Watson may want out of Houston

[DirtDirtDirt]

He had Hopkins....not the amount of weapons Mahomes has had.

When you have a guy like Hopkins he gets doubled.....you can gameplan against him on defense.....

And the Texans defense hasn't been dominant for a few seasons, not just this season.

Kelce and Hill are great no doubt

other guys that produce there are really a product of Mahomes greatness

 

[DJ]

And they were 14-1 with Mahomes

Mahomes and Rodgers are in a city all by themselves in this league, Lamar and Allen for me are the closest to knocking on that door

So like Ducky said, "You're a hater."

OKay.

Watson has done it longer than Allen and Jackson.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

So like Ducky said, "You're a hater."

OKay.

Watson has done it longer than Allen and Jackson.

If you think I’m a hater cause I would take Mahomes, Rodgers, Lamar and Allen over Watson, I got news for ya, I definitely ain’t alone in that opinion

 

[DJ]

Jackson just won his first playoff game but he's better.....despite Buffalo and Baltimore both having better defenses than Houston.

Can't make it up.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Nothing is more under appreciated in the NFL than what Lamar Jackson has accomplished in 3 years in this league

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Jackson just won his first playoff game but he's better.....despite Buffalo and Baltimore both having better defenses than Houston.

Can't make it up.

He’s won an MVP and has won 84% of his football games

and all you have to do is watch to know how important he is to that winning

 

[cowboycolors]

You really like the word "now", don't you?

Lol guess so

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Watson's numbers:

70.2%, 301ypg, League leading8.9ypa (without Mahomes talent), League leading 12.6ypc, 33 TD's, just 7 INT's, 112.4 PR

Mahomes:

66.3%, 316ypg, 8.1ypa, 12.2ypc, 38 TD's, 6 INT's, 108 PR

Watson will take quite a few extra sacks for that extra YPA is the thing though. 49 sacks to Mahomes' 22.

 

[DJ]

Watson will take quite a few extra sacks for that extra YPA is the thing though. 49 sacks to Mahomes' 22.

KC's OL is better.

 

[cwalke3408]

Kelce and Hill are great no doubt

So yes you agree Mahomes does have one of the best pass-catching duos in the NFL

 

[Fountain City Blues]

KC's OL is better.

Is it?

Fisher-Wisniewski-Reiter-Wylie-Remmers?

That's not a good OL at all.

Tardif, Niang, and Schwartz are on IR or opted out.

 

[cwalke3408]

He’s won an MVP and has won 84% of his football games

and all you have to do is watch to know how important he is to that winning

Yeah we watch Lamar decline this season after teams got more film on him

 

[cwalke3408]

Is it?

Fisher-Wisniewski-Reiter-Wylie-Remmers?

That's not a good OL at all.

Tardif, Niang, and Schwartz are on IR or opted out.

2020 PFF Oline rankings
#11 Chiefs
#23 Houston

Final 2020 offensive line rankings | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

With the 2020 NFL regular season now in the books, PFF's Ben Linsey ranks every offensive line in the NFL.

www.pff.com

 

[Fountain City Blues]

2020 PFF Oline rankings
#11 Cheifs
#23 Houston

Final 2020 offensive line rankings | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

With the 2020 NFL regular season now in the books, PFF's Ben Linsey ranks every offensive line in the NFL.

www.pff.com

"Mike Remmers performing admirably" is a bit of a tell here given his history...

Dude's not parlaying this into a contract for the same reason Daryl Williams is not an elite OT either, PFF grade aside.

Mike Remmers, has fared admirably in pass protection in his stead. Remmers’ pressure rate allowed of 4.4% this season would be his lowest mark at the tackle position since 2014.

Is there a soul on this earth who believes that's legit? For Mike Remmers? There are ways to make lineman look better than they are. We did this with Conklin his first couple years in Tennessee when he wasn't half as good as he is now.

 

[cwalke3408]

Is it?

Fisher-Wisniewski-Reiter-Wylie-Remmers?

That's not a good OL at all.

Tardif, Niang, and Schwartz are on IR or opted out.

Team Pass Block Win Rate
6. Kansas City Chiefs, 63%
19. Houston Texans, 56%

2020 NFL pass-rushing, run-stopping, blocking leaderboard: Win rate rankings

ESPN Analytics created revolutionary new metrics to measure performance in both the run and pass game. Here are the leaders for the 2020 season.

www.espn.com

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Team Pass Block Win Rate
6. Kansas City Chiefs, 63%
19. Houston Texans, 56%

2020 NFL pass-rushing, run-stopping, blocking leaderboard: Win rate rankings

ESPN Analytics created revolutionary new metrics to measure performance in both the run and pass game. Here are the leaders for the 2020 season.

www.espn.com

The idea that's a legit description of what's going on in pass protection is pretty questionable even if you believe some backups + Fisher/Reiter is a borderline top 5 pass O-line. Severely overrating some backups/street FA's. Isn't this also the same metric/system that is implying Aaron Donald is a bad run defender too?

KC has two good pass protecting lineman, max, right now. Either Andy Reid is OL Jesus or Mahomes manages pressure better than most QB's; drifting aside.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Something nobody is talking about...Mahomes has Andy Reid as his HC nad playcaller. Watson had BoB, who else? Who is there now? That can make all the difference in the world

 

[DJ]

Yeah we watch Lamar decline this season after teams got more film on him

This. If he can't run, he can't win a game for them.

Not against a title contender.

 

[DJ]

Something nobody is talking about...Mahomes has Andy Reid as his HC nad playcaller. Watson had BoB, who else? Who is there now? That can make all the difference in the world

BOOM.

 

[DJ]

Something nobody is talking about...Mahomes has Andy Reid as his HC nad playcaller. Watson had BoB, who else? Who is there now? That can make all the difference in the world

O'Brien is the new OC at Bama.