redseat
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Kraft is using his connections to drive down the price.
Giving out gift certificates for "massages?"
Kraft is using his connections to drive down the price.
Giving out gift certificates for "massages?"
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3rd civil suit is filed vs. Deshaun Watson and NFL is investigating allegations of sexual assault, harassment
Unlike the first two suits, this one claims Watson forced a therapist to perform oral sex on him during a session.sports.yahoo.com
Evangelical snake oil salesman until proven otherwise.Easterby 'Helps People,' Says Texans Newcomer
Marcus Cannon is a proponent of Jack Easterby following their time in New Englandwww.si.com
How much help has he been for Watson?Evangelical snake oil salesman until proven otherwise.
At least some of them did. Most were afraid for their jobs.So if these women did indeed touch him, mentioned nothing about it, now want money aren't they prostitutes?
Man I miss the good old day's when men could do and say anything to a woman, and if they bitched up they were ostracized for itAt least some of them did. Most were afraid for their jobs.
Such is the nature of sexual assault / harrassment in the work place......
That's why the topic is difficult. Many woman are assaulted and need protection/justice, but many are willing/wanting participants who make it real complicated for everyone.So if these women did indeed touch him, mentioned nothing about it, now want money aren't they prostitutes?
That's why the topic is difficult. Many woman are assaulted and need protection/justice, but many are willing/wanting participants who make it real complicated for everyone.
Somebody who took money but did it out of fear of reprisal would not be a prostitute and would be a victim. Someone who took the money only because it was offered isn't a prostitute either. But the worst is those who truly engaged in a transaction and now are seeking an opportunity to get paid twice.
No.So if these women did indeed touch him, mentioned nothing about it, now want money aren't they prostitutes?
Every time I went out with him it was r*pe, r*pe r*pe!!!!!!In my opinion this is not assault. This is a massage therapist who doesn't know how to handle herself professionally. Like, she could say "no", or she could not have had multiple more sessions. Sorry, but yes I am victim shaming.
The lawsuit says Watson's penis touched her hand several times. She was uncomfortable but shrugged it off as nerves and agreed to a second session, where she was asked to massage his lower abdomen and groin area, the lawsuit states. Again, she says, Watson caused his penis to touch her hands continuously. She says she decided to do a third massage and Watson again allegedly continuously touched the Plaintiff with his penis. By that session, the lawsuit alleges, "Plaintiff finally concluded that Watson wanted sex." The plaintiff then fired Watson as a client because she didn't want to jeopardize her marriage, she says, and she was "terrified of what Watson would do to her career."
So dude is getting a groin massage, I can see how a penis might touch her hand. But when she went back for more that is on her.In my opinion this is not assault. This is a massage therapist who doesn't know how to handle herself professionally. Like, she could say "no", or she could not have had multiple more sessions. Sorry, but yes I am victim shaming.
The lawsuit says Watson's penis touched her hand several times. She was uncomfortable but shrugged it off as nerves and agreed to a second session, where she was asked to massage his lower abdomen and groin area, the lawsuit states. Again, she says, Watson caused his penis to touch her hands continuously. She says she decided to do a third massage and Watson again allegedly continuously touched the Plaintiff with his penis. By that session, the lawsuit alleges, "Plaintiff finally concluded that Watson wanted sex." The plaintiff then fired Watson as a client because she didn't want to jeopardize her marriage, she says, and she was "terrified of what Watson would do to her career."
but in your opinion aren't you fake-victim shaming?Sorry, but yes I am victim shaming.
So dude is getting a groin massage, I can see how a penis might touch her hand. But when she went back for more that is on her.
Jesus it's so hard to get a rub and tug anymore.
I have this throbbing in my penis.....I can't locate it right now but I just read an article where 18 massage therapists, some of them notable in the sports community, have come forward in defense of Watson saying he definitely has an issue near his hammy/groin area and that they all performed massages on him in that area and that he was a total professional. They all signed personal statements.