2025 Rosterbation

[tzill]

Any Burnes updates? If we land him I feel like we look like a wild card team (assuming the usual required injury luck and so on)

Who needs Burnes:

The Giants have signed LHP Antonio Jimenez to a minor league contract. Jimenez spent his entire pro career in the Rays organization before becoming a free agent this offseason. He posted a 3.79 ERA, 58 strikeouts, and 22 walks in 61.2 innings split across 2 levels in 2024.

 

[LHG]

Who needs Burnes:

The Giants have signed LHP Antonio Jimenez to a minor league contract. Jimenez spent his entire pro career in the Rays organization before becoming a free agent this offseason. He posted a 3.79 ERA, 58 strikeouts, and 22 walks in 61.2 innings split across 2 levels in 2024.

Great. We can add him to the collection of about 25 other pitchers vying to pitch in Sacramento in 2025 (not counting the A's AAAA team of the same location).

 

[sf1giantfan]

Any Burnes updates? If we land him I feel like we look like a wild card team (assuming the usual required injury luck and so on)

Seems we have thrown everything at Burnes and not shown any interest in other pitchers. Some of the pitchers are being signed as we wait for a possibility of signing Burnes.

 

[tzill]

 

[sf1giantfan]

Burnes doesn’t care to be close to his home. His home is where the most money gives him.

 

[calsnowskier]

Burnes doesn’t care to be close to his home. His home is where the most money gives him.

As it is with most everyone on the planet.

 

[SF11704]

Just a few thoughts .... I have a relative that works in a law firm in NY. They also have handled some athletes contracts in the past. I ran the Burnes situation past him ... his remarks were interestimg ....
1. Tzill's comment about doing all that is possible for the client is spot on. That is thier job ..
2. He also thinks that the situation is not exactly as it appears. From his perspective most firms would not typically bring things like opt outs and side requests to the table this late in the process. If they have already worked out a solid framework for the contract they have invested a good amount of time and energy at this point. Most firms wouldn’t risk it at this point .....
Unless .....
3. Burnes and Boras are having second thoughts at this time (maybe another offer) and they need a way out that doesn't present a horrible optic. As it is now ... it would be a much better optic if the SF team left the negotiating table ... for any reason ...

 

[LHG]

Seems we have thrown everything at Burnes and not shown any interest in other pitchers. Some of the pitchers are being signed as we wait for a possibility of signing Burnes.

Burnes, in my opinion, is clearly the best starting pitcher left on the free agent market. Below him, I would say the following are next best 5:
Jack Flaherty
Max Scherzer/Justin Verlander
Andrew Heaney
Nick Pivetta
Jose Quintana


People seems pretty high on Flaherty but I just don't see it. He has been awfully inconsistent in his career but is coming off a good 2024 season. Maybe he has finally realized the potential he flashed earlier in his career but at this point in time, I see him as a bit overrated. Still, he'd probably be a fine fit in the Giants' rotation.
The rest, however, are more back of rotation types. I put Scherzer and Verlander as a tie due mainly to the fact that they are both aging future HOFers who are still decent but have problems staying healthy. I'd be okay if one of them were signed to a one year deal (think of Randy Johnson with the Giants) but I'd rather see the Giants pass on Heaney, Pivetta and Quintana (or Kyle Gibson, Spencer Turnbull and anyone else below them). The Giants have plenty of arms that should probably get a chance over them.

 

[calsnowskier]

Burnes, in my opinion, is clearly the best starting pitcher left on the free agent market. Below him, I would say the following are next best 5:
Jack Flaherty
Max Scherzer/Justin Verlander
Andrew Heaney
Nick Pivetta
Jose Quintana


People seems pretty high on Flaherty but I just don't see it. He has been awfully inconsistent in his career but is coming off a good 2024 season. Maybe he has finally realized the potential he flashed earlier in his career but at this point in time, I see him as a bit overrated. Still, he'd probably be a fine fit in the Giants' rotation.
The rest, however, are more back of rotation types. I put Scherzer and Verlander as a tie due mainly to the fact that they are both aging future HOFers who are still decent but have problems staying healthy. I'd be okay if one of them were signed to a one year deal (think of Randy Johnson with the Giants) but I'd rather see the Giants pass on Heaney, Pivetta and Quintana (or Kyle Gibson, Spencer Turnbull and anyone else below them). The Giants have plenty of arms that should probably get a chance over them.

And there is still the big prize Japanese pitcher, Sasaki

 

[tzill]

Saggy Pants just signed with the Sox. Boras leverage is waning.

 

[LHG]

And there is still the big prize Japanese pitcher, Sasaki

I forgot about him because I really don't think the Giants have any snowball's chance at landing him. In my mind, he is already signed elsewhere.

 

[LHG]

Saggy Pants just signed with the Sox. Boras leverage is waning.

Doesn't mean that he won't use the Red Sox until (and maybe even in spite of) they come out and say that they are done building their rotation.

 

[calsnowskier]

Saggy Pants just signed with the Sox. Boras leverage is waning.

Who is Saggy Pants. Beuhler?

 

[LHG]

Who is Saggy Pants. Beuhler?

I thought at first he was referring to Melancon (Poppy Pants) but knew that he couldn't have been talking about a retired reliever. Then I thought about Pomerantz (Poo Drama Pants) and knew he was already signed. I assumed it was Buehler and not Sandoval.

I do wonder, why are tzill's pitcher nicknames involving pants?

 

[calsnowskier]

I thought at first he was referring to Melancon (Poppy Pants) but knew that he couldn't have been talking about a retired reliever. Then I thought about Pomerantz (Poo Drama Pants) and knew he was already signed. I assumed it was Buehler and not Sandoval.

I do wonder, why are tzill's pitcher nicknames involving pants?

I guess we know where he is looking every game…

 

[sf1giantfan]

Rumor is, Borass is pulling a fast one on us very slowly.

 

[calsnowskier]

Rumor is, Borass is pulling a fast one on us very slowly.

Ah…

the ol’ slow fast one. He is a wiley one, that Boras…

 

[LHG]

Rangers Met With Roki Sasaki, Giants "Believed To Have Met" With Sasaki As Well

Two more teams have seemingly met with NPB star Roki Sasaki. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

While I’d love to have Sasaki sign with the Giants, I have very little faith that he will.

 

[calsnowskier]

Rangers Met With Roki Sasaki, Giants "Believed To Have Met" With Sasaki As Well

Two more teams have seemingly met with NPB star Roki Sasaki. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

While I’d love to have Sasaki sign with the Giants, I have very little faith that he will.

The only negating power anyone has in this recruitment is location and competitiveness. He is limited in how much he can sign for, so $$ is a complete non factor. If the dogs want him, it is pretty much a done deal.

 

[sf1giantfan]

Rangers Met With Roki Sasaki, Giants "Believed To Have Met" With Sasaki As Well

Two more teams have seemingly met with NPB star Roki Sasaki. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

While I’d love to have Sasaki sign with the Giants, I have very little faith that he will.

I agree, but we might have had a chance to be turned down earlier with Sasaki thinking we were interested from the get go. Now he knows we might be interested because the market is shrinking and he might be willing to turn us down as soon as we want to set up a meeting. Same result.