2025 Rosterbation

[msgkings322]

2021 and 2024 he got MVP votes

Good luck with that lol

 

[tzill]

There is a good chance that the Opening Day lineup will feature 5 players under 30 in 2025 with Patrick Bailey, Tyler Fitzgerald, Willy Adames, Heliot Ramos, and Jung Hoo Lee.

 

[calsnowskier]

There is a good chance that the Opening Day lineup will feature 5 players under 30 in 2025 with Patrick Bailey, Tyler Fitzgerald, Willy Adames, Heliot Ramos, and Jung Hoo Lee.

You expect Webb will be injured in ST?

 

[tzill]

You expect Webb will be injured in ST?

No, I don't include the SP in my definition of "lineup" ever since the NL adopted the DH.

 

[tzill]

Asked about the rotation and potential upgrades, Buster Posey talked at length about how much belief he has in the Giants young pitchers. He also said Jordan Hicks will remain in the rotation.

 

[tzill]

 

[msgkings322]

Asked about the rotation and potential upgrades, Buster Posey talked at length about how much belief he has in the Giants young pitchers.

Translation: "I won't be signing anyone"

He also said Jordan Hicks will remain in the rotation.

Hope he doesn't get tired like he did last year later on

 

[Sandisfan]

Translation: "I won't be signing anyone"

Hope he doesn't get tired like he did last year later on

Makes me think that missing a start every so often like maybe 7 or 8 starts might keep him strong though the later part of the season.

 

[calsnowskier]

Makes me think that missing a start every so often like maybe 7 or 8 starts might keep him strong though the later part of the season.

He was a reliever his entire career before we got him. We all knew he was going to hit the wall. Hard. And that is exactly what happened. This year SHOULD be better after he worked his endurance last year. He wont be Webb this year, but maybe NEXT year he will start to be an inning eater…

 

[tzill]

Law today on Fitz:

They got excellent production from Tyler Fitzgerald last year, including near-average defense at short, but all of the available evidence we have says that it’s not sustainable. His wOBA of .357 was well above average, but his batted-ball data point to an expected wOBA (xwOBA) of .292, which is well below average. He struck out 31.7 percent of the time last year in the majors, consistent with most of his minor-league tenure outside of his time in the Triple-A Pacific Coast League, where there are a lot of great hitters’ parks, and in recent years they’ve used the automated ball-strike system at least some of the time. The odds are very good he’s going to see his average and OBP drop this year, and it’s good to see the Giants avoid buying into his 96-game sample with all of the red flags in the underlying data.

 

[tzill]

More on Adames from Law:

I worry his high strikeout rates, between 25 percent and 27 percent in each of the last three years, portend a big drop-off in production when he gets to the latter portion of this contract; hitters do tend to lose bat speed in their 30s, and Adames doesn’t have much margin for error in his contact rates. It could be a great deal over the next three years, and an albatross maybe in years 6 and 7, depending really on how quickly age catches up to him — and I don’t think anyone has figured out how to predict that.

 

[tzill]

Law conclusion:

I’m not sure they need to do anything else big, and I wouldn’t want to see them make a big signing for an unlikely playoff push this year. If they wanted to sign, say, Max Fried for four to five years to give them a legitimate No. 2 behind Logan Webb, great, because he’d be there for the 2026 and 2027 seasons when this team might be a more realistic contender.

 

[calsnowskier]

Fried will apparently be signing in the next few days, and the Giants are NOT a finalist.

 

[stanford the manford]

Law today on Fitz:

They got excellent production from Tyler Fitzgerald last year, including near-average defense at short, but all of the available evidence we have says that it’s not sustainable. His wOBA of .357 was well above average, but his batted-ball data point to an expected wOBA (xwOBA) of .292, which is well below average. He struck out 31.7 percent of the time last year in the majors, consistent with most of his minor-league tenure outside of his time in the Triple-A Pacific Coast League, where there are a lot of great hitters’ parks, and in recent years they’ve used the automated ball-strike system at least some of the time. The odds are very good he’s going to see his average and OBP drop this year, and it’s good to see the Giants avoid buying into his 96-game sample with all of the red flags in the underlying data.

There's always the possibility that '24 wasn't a fluke. I hope he gets some solid ABs from either 2nd or (if a hi profile 2nd baseman is signed) super-utility rotation / DH. Play the hot hand until it isn't

 

[sf1giantfan]

So no Japanese pitchers signing with the Giants?

 

[calsnowskier]

So no Japanese pitchers signing with the Giants?

Relax. They haven’t signed with ANYONE yet…

 

[calsnowskier]

There's always the possibility that '24 wasn't a fluke. I hope he gets some solid ABs from either 2nd or (if a hi profile 2nd baseman is signed) super-utility rotation / DH. Play the hot hand until it isn't

Fitz came out of nowhere to have the season he did, so I think it is fair to be bullish on his future numbers. But I like him regardless, even just as a util player. I kinda picture him as a GOOD Thomlinson.

 

[tzill]

His K% coupled with an unsustainable BABIP last year screams regression to me.

Really hope I'm wrong.

 

[calsnowskier]

His K% coupled with an unsustainable BABIP last year screams regression to me.

Really hope I'm wrong.

I think we all knew as it was happening that it wasn’t the “real” Fitz.

We can appreciate him, while still acknowledging he was playing above his head.

 

[tzill]

Per Jeff Passan:

Fried to Yanks 8/218

Glad we dodged that contract.