2025 Rosterbation

[calsnowskier]

It is curious. Then again, they have access to vast information we do not. Maybe they knew they weren't getting Burnes or Fried and moved quickly to secure what they could.

One area of the Giants roster that they'll likely need to break up is the Wilmer Flores, LaMonte Wade Jr., and Jerar Encarnación group at 1B/DH. That's a lot of roster spots and not enough defensive versatility/production.

I love Wilmer, but he is a negative asset at this point. He will likely be DFA’d to make room before ST.

Jerar is a tough subject. His defense is better than you would think (in the OF, he is not a 1B), but is his hit tool enough to carry him? I am not convinced yet, though I like what I have seen from him.

Wade a great place holder. But he is made of glass. What would we be able to get for him in a trade? I suspect that his price would not be enough to make it worth it, unless they are simply making room for Eldridge.

 

[LHG]

It is curious. Then again, they have access to vast information we do not. Maybe they knew they weren't getting Burnes or Fried and moved quickly to secure what they could.

One area of the Giants roster that they'll likely need to break up is the Wilmer Flores, LaMonte Wade Jr., and Jerar Encarnación group at 1B/DH. That's a lot of roster spots and not enough defensive versatility/production.

I love Wilmer, but he is a negative asset at this point. He will likely be DFA’d to make room before ST.

Jerar is a tough subject. His defense is better than you would think (in the OF, he is not a 1B), but is his hit tool enough to carry him? I am not convinced yet, though I like what I have seen from him.

Wade a great place holder. But he is made of glass. What would we be able to get for him in a trade? I suspect that his price would not be enough to make it worth it, unless they are simply making room for Eldridge.

I do agree that Flores should be the first of the group dumped. I doubt Wade would bring much back considering his lack of power (for a 1st baseman) and health questions, if the Giants were to trade him. It would be interesting to know how the Giants view Encarnacion’s hit tool.
Back to Wade, did the Giants move him to 1st base due to a crowded outfield, to keep him healthy or was his defense lacking that much in the outfield?

 

[calsnowskier]

I do agree that Flores should be the first of the group dumped. I doubt Wade would bring much back considering his lack of power (for a 1st baseman) and health questions, if the Giants were to trade him. It would be interesting to know how the Giants view Encarnacion’s hit tool.
Back to Wade, did the Giants move him to 1st base due to a crowded outfield, to keep him healthy or was his defense lacking that much in the outfield?

Good question. I never really understood the move myself. I always thought his OF defense was at worst passable (but I ignorantly thought it was pretty good). I suspect it was more of a position of need and we had excess OFers.

 

[tzill]

The 2025 Steamer projections for Jung Hoo Lee:
.294/.351/.438 (121 wRC+), 14 HR, 88 R, 62 RBI, 13 SB, 3.9 fWAR in 660 plate appearances

 

[calsnowskier]

The 2025 Steamer projections for Jung Hoo Lee:
.294/.351/.438 (121 wRC+), 14 HR, 88 R, 62 RBI, 13 SB, 3.9 fWAR in 660 plate appearances

Is there any way to lookup what these projections were in the past to compare them to actuality?

 

[tzill]

Logan Webb: 201 IP, 3.48 ERA, 3.29 FIP
Robbie Ray: 160.2 IP, 3.98 ERA, 3.95 FIP
Kyle Harrison: 145 IP, 4.08 ERA, 4.09 FIP
Jordan Hicks: 130.2 IP, 4.20 ERA, 4.19 FIP
Hayden Birdsong: 116.1 IP, 4.07 ERA, 4.09 FIP
Landen Roupp: 111.2 IP, 3.91 ERA, 3.94 FIP

 

[tzill]

Is there any way to lookup what these projections were in the past to compare them to actuality?

not without paying.

 

[LHG]

The 2025 Steamer projections for Jung Hoo Lee:
.294/.351/.438 (121 wRC+), 14 HR, 88 R, 62 RBI, 13 SB, 3.9 fWAR in 660 plate appearances

Is there any way to lookup what these projections were in the past to compare them to actuality?

I certainly hope he does that well in 2025 but I expect him to be closer to .268/.320/.398 for the year.

 

[sf1giantfan]

What pitcher should we get / end up getting?

1) Burnes
2) Tomoyuki Sugano (Free Agent)
3) Roki Sasaki ( To be posted)
4) Sean Manaea
5) Justin Verlander
6) Max Fried
7) Max Scherzen
8) Someone else I can’t think of

And can’t the Giants defer some of the signing money
Like the dodgers have been doing?

 

[msgkings322]

What pitcher should we get / end up getting?

1) Burnes
2) Tomoyuki Sugano (Free Agent)
3) Roki Sasaki ( To be posted)
4) Sean Manaea
5) Someone else I can’t think of

And can’t the Giants defer some of the signing money
Like the dodgers have been doing?

That was Ohtani’s idea because he makes so much from other sources. A regular non superstar will want their money up front.

 

[sf1giantfan]

That was Ohtani’s idea because he makes so much from other sources. A regular non superstar will want their money up front.

Snell did the same thing, might be a trend.

 

[LHG]

That was Ohtani’s idea because he makes so much from other sources. A regular non superstar will want their money up front.

Snell did the same thing, might be a trend.

Besides Ohtani and Snell, I believe that a couple other recent (past couple of offseasons) free agent signings with the Dodgers have deferred some money. Ohtani's is just the highest amount of deferred money, by far.

 

[sf1giantfan]

Maybe Burnes will do it so we can sign other players. What a guy he might be.

 

[sf1giantfan]

Giants could grab this Japanese guy instead

 

[sf1giantfan]

What pitcher should we get / end up getting?

1) Burnes
2) Tomoyuki Sugano (Free Agent)
3) Roki Sasaki ( To be posted)
4) Sean Manaea
5) Justin Verlander
6) Max Fried
7) Max Scherzen
8) Someone else I can’t think of

And can’t the Giants defer some of the signing money
Like the dodgers have been doing?

I would like us to look into Tomoyuki Sugano, no fees since he is a free agent and will cost less than Sasaki. And although he is older he has been still putting up good numbers.

 

[LHG]

I would like us to look into Tomoyuki Sugano, no fees since he is a free agent and will cost less than Sasaki. And although he is older he has been still putting up good numbers.

Except he isn't going to cost less than Sasaki. Sasaki is still an "amateur" so there is a cap to how much a team can sign him. Sugano has no such restrictions. However, he is old for a guy just coming over to MLB so he may not be too much more than Sasaki but then again I wasn't expecting Montas or Boyd to get what they've signed for this offseason.

 

[stanford the manford]

Besides Ohtani and Snell, I believe that a couple other recent (past couple of offseasons) free agent signings with the Dodgers have deferred some money. Ohtani's is just the highest amount of deferred money, by far.

Also including some deferred payments are Dodger's contracts to Hernandez, Smith, Freeman, Edman, and Betts. Total approx 1 billion w/ Othani deferring 680 mil.

 

[LHG]

Giants missed out on signing Wilmer's little brother . . . . Wilmer.

Tigers Re-Sign Wilmer Flores, Eddys Leonard To Minor League Deals

The Tigers have re-signed right-hander Wilmer Flores and infielder/outfielder Eddys Leonard to minor league deals, reports Evan Petzold of the Detroit …

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[LHG]

Not really sure how helpful this would be. If Chapman fills the temporary hole at shortstop, who fills the temporary hole at 3rd base? Seems to be a net zero idea.

Matt Chapman Could Serve As A Stopgap Shortstop For HSK

The Giants are in the market for a shortstop. President of baseball operations Buster Posey acknowledged as much at the …

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[calsnowskier]

Not really sure how helpful this would be. If Chapman fills the temporary hole at shortstop, who fills the temporary hole at 3rd base? Seems to be a net zero idea.

Matt Chapman Could Serve As A Stopgap Shortstop For HSK

The Giants are in the market for a shortstop. President of baseball operations Buster Posey acknowledged as much at the …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

If Schmitt is used what would be the ideal configuration between the two?