2024 Rosterbation

[calsnowskier]

Out of curiosity, who do you see as possible "gets" on a trade?

No clue. I don’t offer ideas on that front myself. I am completely ignorant when it comes to other org’s needs and inventories.

 

[LHG]

Who knows. But if we take advantage of our market strengths (signing fa pitchers), it allows us to more freely trade from our organizational strength (young pitching).

I don’t know other team’s farms. I know our farm by reputation only (I have never scouted a single Giants prospect myself). So my argument is in theory only.

Fair enough. I don't really know who would possibly be available either. Its easier to have an idea during the season than in the offseason. I know that Juan Soto is possibly available and should be available more cheaply than the last trade for him (due to proximity to free agency) but does the Padres trade to a division rival? If so, would it cost more? And how likely would he be willing to sign an extension after the trade?

 

[calsnowskier]

Fair enough. I don't really know who would possibly be available either. Its easier to have an idea during the season than in the offseason. I know that Juan Soto is possibly available and should be available more cheaply than the last trade for him (due to proximity to free agency) but does the Padres trade to a division rival? If so, would it cost more? And how likely would he be willing to sign an extension after the trade?

And what does BoMel think of Soto? Did they have a good relationship? Does BoMel think Soto is worth acquiring?

The last major trade between these orgs was almost 30 years ago, but it was one of the best “both teams win” trades in the history of baseball, imho (Davis for Mitchell).

 

[tzill]

But if you are taking Webb/Harry or anyone else we actually like off the table, than FA is the only route.

1. I'm not taking anyone off the table
2. Even with those off the table, there are deals that can be done.

 

[tzill]

Sign Yamamoto and Snell. That solidifies the rotation.

Then shoot for the stars on a trade for a bat, while putting EVERY asset we have on the table (including Webb, Harry, Luciano, Bailey, Estrada…. Whoever!!).

Theoretically, we have a market advantage in being able to sign FA pitchers. Let’s utilize that advantage and fill in bats through other means.

I'll be surprised if they DON'T sign Yamamoto. The bat? We shall see. Doubt it will be Ohtani or Bellinger

 

[tzill]

It's the most immediate and least painful, compared to trades (which hurt to give people up) and waiting for the farm to produce a bat (it's been a while)

All I'm saying is we're probably screwed as far as getting a legit lineup in the next couple of years.

You'd have to know how Schmit, Luciano, Estrada, Bailey, Matos, Ramos, Sabol, Fitz, Martin, Arias, McCray, Meckler, Arteaga, Brown, Pomares, etc. turn out.

I'm not going to be pessimistic in November. That's just silly.

 

[filosofy29]

I'll be surprised if they DON'T sign Yamamoto. The bat? We shall see. Doubt it will be Ohtani or Bellinger

Of all the options, with the limited knowledge I have, I think signing Yamamoto and then trading for a bat is better than signing either of the above. I love Ohtani, but I still think he’s getting $500M and Belly scares me. So far, the outlier in the most recent seasons has been the good one.

 

[msgkings322]

You'd have to know how Schmit, Luciano, Estrada, Bailey, Matos, Ramos, Sabol, Fitz, Martin, Arias, McCray, Meckler, Arteaga, Brown, Pomares, etc. turn out.

I don't see any studs coming from that group but happy to be wrong. Do we really think Matos or Luciano are going to be Seager/Garcia/Carroll/Marte level offensive players (to pick the ones that were in the World Series)? These others?

I'm not going to be pessimistic in November. That's just silly.

Of course, and don't let me stop you. Fandom is exactly this, assuming the best and being optimistic in the offseason. I just don't personally feel very optimistic considering where we are and what's realistic to make it better in the short run. We'll be good again but I don't see how in the next couple years.

 

[calsnowskier]

I don't see any studs coming from that group but happy to be wrong. Do we really think Matos or Luciano are going to be Seager/Garcia/Carroll/Marte level offensive players (to pick the ones that were in the World Series)? These others?

Of course, and don't let me stop you. Fandom is exactly this, assuming the best and being optimistic in the offseason. I just don't personally feel very optimistic considering where we are and what's realistic to make it better in the short run. We'll be good again but I don't see how in the next couple years.

I think Luciano CAN be a stud. He is still young and the scouts still really like him. I am still not sold on his future as a SS, but I am not closing the door on his bat just yet. Matos i think has a ceiling of a #3 OFer.

 

[sf1giantfan]

Sign Yamamoto and Snell. That solidifies the rotation.

Then shoot for the stars on a trade for a bat, while putting EVERY asset we have on the table (including Webb, Harry, Luciano, Bailey, Estrada…. Whoever!!).

Theoretically, we have a market advantage in being able to sign FA pitchers. Let’s utilize that advantage and fill in bats through other means.

Upgrade our pitching with Yamamoto and Snell then down grade it by taking away Webb? Webb has proven himself with the Giants, Yamamoto has not even proven it in the majors yet. I hope we get Yamamoto because of the possibilities but why take away a sure thing like Webb?

 

[calsnowskier]

Upgrade our pitching with Yamamoto and Snell then down grade it by taking away Webb? Webb has proven himself with the Giants, Yamamoto has not even proven it in the majors yet. I hope we get Yamamoto because of the possibilities but why take away a sure thing like Webb?

If we want to add a major bat, we have to give something up. This isn’t MLB:The Show. You can’t get Barry Bonds for 7 AA throw away players. That doesn’t happen in the real world.

I don’t WANT to trade Webb. I am just saying that if we were to replace him with someone like Yamamoto and/or Snell, that could free up dealing Webb or Harry for a big offensive asset.

We are not in a position to take anyone off the table at this point. And as much as we like Webb, he isnt HOF level, no way can he be traded. He is just really good.

 

[Stokes1931]

Report: Stripling opts into Giants contract for 2024 season

Ross Stripling reportedly will remain with the Giants next season after a disappointing 2023 campaign.

www.nbcsportsbayarea.com

Not a surprise.

 

[LHG]

Report: Stripling opts into Giants contract for 2024 season

Ross Stripling reportedly will remain with the Giants next season after a disappointing 2023 campaign.

www.nbcsportsbayarea.com

Not a surprise.

Didn't he pretty much say that he would stay put for 2024 during the season?

 

[sf1giantfan]

Didn't he pretty much say that he would stay put for 2024 during the season?

Yes but we were hoping he was a fool and try and get some more money somewhere else

 

[tzill]

LHP Scott Alexander, RHP John Brebbia, SS Brandon Crawford, RHP Jakob Junis, OF Joc Pederson, C Roberto Pérez and LHP Alex Wood become free agents
The Giants will have five days to negotiate exclusively with their own free agents, which is known as the "quiet period." Free agents will be eligible to sign with any team beginning on Nov. 6 at 2 p.m. PT.

 

[calsnowskier]

LHP Scott Alexander, RHP John Brebbia, SS Brandon Crawford, RHP Jakob Junis, OF Joc Pederson, C Roberto Pérez and LHP Alex Wood become free agents
The Giants will have five days to negotiate exclusively with their own free agents, which is known as the "quiet period." Free agents will be eligible to sign with any team beginning on Nov. 6 at 2 p.m. PT.

I hope Brebbia comes back and I would be OK with Alexander, Junis and Wood.

I will lose no sleep if we lose any of them, and I would guess Brebbia is a 50/50 while the others are almost certainly going to leave.

 

[sf1giantfan]

I’m ok with a complete clean slate with those unmagnificent seven.

 

[LHG]

LHP Scott Alexander, RHP John Brebbia, SS Brandon Crawford, RHP Jakob Junis, OF Joc Pederson, C Roberto Pérez and LHP Alex Wood become free agents
The Giants will have five days to negotiate exclusively with their own free agents, which is known as the "quiet period." Free agents will be eligible to sign with any team beginning on Nov. 6 at 2 p.m. PT.

I wouldn't mind one of Alexander or Junis returning and really hope that Crawford officially retires (I assume that Perez will likely do the same). The rest I am fine landing somewhere else for 2024.

 

[LHG]

I hope Brebbia comes back and I would be OK with Alexander, Junis and Wood.

I will lose no sleep if we lose any of them, and I would guess Brebbia is a 50/50 while the others are almost certainly going to leave.

I thought the Kapler/Brebbia incident swayed you away from wanting him back (or was that Stokes?).

 

[calsnowskier]

I thought the Kapler/Brebbia incident swayed you away from wanting him back (or was that Stokes?).

Before that I was fully in the “bring him back” camp. The fact I am now “meh” is a big shift.

I think that whole thing was more a window into the respect (lack of) the team had for Kap.