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Game #10 NY Jets vs NE Patriots Sunday 11/20/2022 1:00 PM CBS

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I agree the line is really bad and its not all Mac’s fault. Just so frustrating to see him have a decent day, and sputter so badly when nearing the EZ. It seems like he starts to move the ball efficiently then they change the plays away from what is working. So that is true as well. It’s not all his fault of course.
In the Red Zone is where a seasoned OC earns their money. You have to be more creative with a shorter field Josh had that because he may suck donkey sperm through a metal straw as a HC but he is damn good OC. Matt lacks the depth, that repertoire, the experience. Matt is supposedly the Oline coach as well, BB really fucked up with this.
 

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In the Red Zone is where a seasoned OC earns their money. You have to be more creative with a shorter field Josh had that because he may suck donkey sperm through a metal straw as a HC but he is damn good OC. Matt lacks the depth, that repertoire, the experience. Matt is supposedly the Oline coach as well, BB really fucked up with this.
Did Josh show really show anything more than just "being tb12's bitch"?
 

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Marcus Jones was 1 for 1 scoring touchdowns when he had the ball in his hands. Try to follow...
" I kinda liked our chances with one play left inside the 10.... with the wind."

If Marcus Jones was tackled by the Jets player inside the 10, it would go back to the offense and Mac Jones for 1 final play. Maybe 2 if extenuating circumstances happen.
Mac Jones had been inside the 10 a number of times and only got sacked out of it or false start/holding penalty flagged out of it.

Hence: We had chances all day inside the 10 and did nothing.

Nothing to do with Marcus..


catch up omg GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
 

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" I kinda liked our chances with one play left inside the 10.... with the wind."

If Marcus Jones was tackled by the Jets player inside the 10, it would go back to the offense and Mac Jones for 1 final play. Maybe 2 if extenuating circumstances happen.
Mac Jones had been inside the 10 a number of times and only got sacked out of it or false start/holding penalty flagged out of it.

Hence: We had chances all day inside the 10 and did nothing.

Nothing to do with Marcus..


catch up omg GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
So are you implying shitty RZ efficiency is on MAC?
 

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" I kinda liked our chances with one play left inside the 10.... with the wind."

If Marcus Jones was tackled by the Jets player inside the 10, it would go back to the offense and Mac Jones for 1 final play. Maybe 2 if extenuating circumstances happen.
Mac Jones had been inside the 10 a number of times and only got sacked out of it or false start/holding penalty flagged out of it.

Hence: We had chances all day inside the 10 and did nothing.

Nothing to do with Marcus..


catch up omg GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Mac Jones isn't on the field goal squad...
 

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Mac Jones isn't on the field goal squad...
To be fair, some boneheaded penalties and sacks got them out of safer FG range in that windy weather. Both were facing the open side of stadium. Not really Folk’s fault IMO.
 

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So are you implying shitty RZ efficiency is on MAC?
Some of it is. Obviously not all his fault. But he is rather slow in checking down receivers when he drops back. Needs to improve on that.
 

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Last years record at this point of the season was similar to this years record at the same point though we've faced harder competition this season.

What has Josh done without TB12 that makes you think he's all that? Was it the Cam Newton year? Was it his dreadful run in Denver? How'd he do as the Rams OC? I don't recall. How's the offense in Vegas doing?

Just curious what it is outside of TB12 that makes you think Josh is all that good?
 

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Last years record at this point of the season was similar to this years record at the same point though we've faced harder competition this season.

What has Josh done without TB12 that makes you think he's all that? Was it the Cam Newton year? Was it his dreadful run in Denver? How'd he do as the Rams OC? I don't recall. How's the offense in Vegas doing?

Just curious what it is outside of TB12 that makes you think Josh is all that good?
No doubt Josh had Brady, which helped a lot. Also, BB as HC always scheming and finding the weaknesses in opponents. Josh definitely got a lot of help. Kind of feel sorry for him to fail so miserably as HC.
 

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Last years record at this point of the season was similar to this years record at the same point though we've faced harder competition this season.

What has Josh done without TB12 that makes you think he's all that? Was it the Cam Newton year? Was it his dreadful run in Denver? How'd he do as the Rams OC? I don't recall. How's the offense in Vegas doing?

Just curious what it is outside of TB12 that makes you think Josh is all that good?
What makes you think he didn't make TB12 better? Josh called the plays plain and simple this was well know. And he and TB12 did but heads from time to time but Josh called the plays. He is very much a large part of the Pats overall success. No one was doing anything with Cam so please drop that lames ass shit.
 

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What makes you think he didn't make TB12 better? Josh called the plays plain and simple this was well know. And he and TB12 did but heads from time to time but Josh called the plays. He is very much a large part of the Pats overall success. No one was doing anything with Cam so please drop that lames ass shit.
It was a good group, certainly, but that’s all over. I would prefer a new OC, BB is good at finding gems in the rough — about time he starts looking. The impact of Scarneccia (sp?) also must be factored in.
 

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It was a good group, certainly, but that’s all over. I would prefer a new OC, BB is good at finding gems in the rough — about time he starts looking. The impact of Scarneccia (sp?) also must be factored in.
Agreed. We all know how good Scar was but the talent of the O line is just horrid.

And I truly hope BB get's an OC in the off season. I am sure he can find something for Patricia to do. Maybe press the uniforms for the cheereleaders
 

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Agreed. We all know how good Scar was but the talent of the O line is just horrid.

And I truly hope BB get's an OC in the off season. I am sure he can find something for Patricia to do. Maybe press the uniforms for the cheereleaders
That last part was funny.
 

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What makes you think he didn't make TB12 better? Josh called the plays plain and simple this was well know. And he and TB12 did but heads from time to time but Josh called the plays. He is very much a large part of the Pats overall success. No one was doing anything with Cam so please drop that lames ass shit.

Fair enough but he hasn't really been successful at all without TB12. Apparently the GOAT makes everybody look better. One year in Tampa and everybody was saying Leftwich should be up for a HC job.

And as Dude just posted, the loss of Dante is not being factored into our debates and he seems like a huge loss.
 

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To be fair, some boneheaded penalties and sacks got them out of safer FG range in that windy weather. Both were facing the open side of stadium. Not really Folk’s fault IMO.
True, but my response was targeted at Marcus Jones being tackled instead of the boneheaded almost block in the back on the return. In that situation the ball would have been inside the 10 with time for a kick attempt and not in Mac's hands...
 
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