Your Top 25 MLB Players of All-Time

[Shanemansj13]

Way too much value on Ted Williams in this thread as well.

No there isn't. He is a top 3 outfielder, right behind Barry and Babe and if it wasn't for Babe he could be considered GOAT. Nothing about him is overrated.

 

[Clayton]

Way too much value on Ted Williams in this thread as well.

I'm definitely factoring in the years he missed for whatever thats worth.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

That's why I said longevity is the only issue, still a top 3 lefty of all-time IMO. Randy and Lefty are right up there as well. I wouldn't have a problem with anyone putting Randy at 1 honestly.

I put together stats that measured pitchers' stats against their contemporaries in the same league.
I came away with Lefty Grove as the best starting pitcher in history.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

No there isn't. He is a top 3 outfielder, right behind Barry and Babe and if it wasn't for Babe he could be considered GOAT. Nothing about him is overrated.

Barry Bonds is player non-grata to me.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Henderson was tough to keep off. What an annoying fuck ... I would not want Henderson on a team I was playing against.

Yeah I might change

That's why I said longevity is the only issue, still a top 3 lefty of all-time IMO. Randy and Lefty are right up there as well. I wouldn't have a problem with anyone putting Randy at 1 honestly.

Longevity is a huge issue when he only had 3 seasons where he was both pitching well and had a lot of innings. Especially compared to other great pitchers.

 

[broncosmitty]

I'm definitely factoring in the years he missed for whatever thats worth.

Yeah, I kinda figured.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

Eddie Collins is over-rated IMO... I really don't get why people like him more than Joe Morgan...

Morgan deserves consideration for sure.

Warren Spahn is easily the most overlooked player on many list though.
There is a good case to be made he was the #1 starting pitcher in the modern era.

 

[broncosmitty]

No there isn't. He is a top 3 outfielder, right behind Barry and Babe and if it wasn't for Babe he could be considered GOAT. Nothing about him is overrated.

Not a chance in fuck.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Eddie Collins is over-rated IMO... I really don't get why people like him more than Joe Morgan...

I think Morgan's peak was better as far as best 2 years (1975/1976). Collins though, had an 18 season prime with a 146 wRC+. He was top 5 in OPS+ in 8 straight seasons, 9 overall. Morgan accomplished that 4 times.

 

[soxfan1468927]

I would take Jimmy Foxx or Pujols

I have Pujols. You mean you would take Jimmie Foxx over Pujols?

 

[soxfan1468927]

Way too much value on Ted Williams in this thread as well.

2nd greatest hitter of all-time after Ruth.

 

[broncosmitty]

2nd greatest hitter of all-time after Ruth.

Egh, I don't believe that.

5th best outfielder alltime, to me.

 

[broncosmitty]

And I'd take Rube Waddell over Koufax.

Most under rated power pitcher of alltime.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Morgan deserves consideration for sure.

Warren Spahn is easily the most overlooked player on many list though.
There is a good case to be made he was the #1 starting pitcher in the modern era.

Spahn's absurd longevity and durability should not be overlooked. But how many seasons was he the best pitcher in baseball?

 

[soxfan1468927]

Egh, I don't believe that.

5th best outfielder alltime, to me.

Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb?

I don't think that's crazy to put him there, but those guys are all top 10 players all-time in my opinion.

188 wRC+, no one is within 15 points of Williams except Ruth being above him. I think Ruth/Williams are in a class of their own as far as hitting.

 

[Voltaire26]

Barry Bonds is player non-grata to me.

Barry Bonds had to bat against pitchers who were on PEDs

 

[Voltaire26]

Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb?

I don't think that's crazy to put him there, but those guys are all top 10 players all-time in my opinion.

188 wRC+, no one is within 15 points of Williams except Ruth being above him. I think Ruth/Williams are in a class of their own as far as hitting.

Ted Williams was a bad ass and he missed 3 prime time seasons (Between the ages of 23 and 26) for military service

 

[jon2tanman]

Not a chance in fuck.

Ted>>>>>Bonds

 

[broncosmitty]

Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb?

I don't think that's crazy to put him there, but those guys are all top 10 players all-time in my opinion.

188 wRC+, no one is within 15 points of Williams except Ruth being above him. I think Ruth/Williams are in a class of their own as far as hitting.

Anything with a plus sign is make believe to me. Not a fan of adjusting reality with hard math.

And yeah, those are the other four.

Bonds is the only guy I'd put in Ruth's class.

1-2 then a drop off.

5th best outfielder ever isn't a dig. He missed a chunk of his prime because he was a damn good American. JoeD and Hank Greenberg take the Patriotic hit too.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

Babe Ruth is #1, without much doubt.

Ted Williams is probably #2, his natural ability is off the chart.

Just an example. 1941: .406/.553 on-base, 37 homers. 1942: .356/.499 on-base, 36 homers. Then he misses 3 full years of baseball for world war 2. He comes back in 1946 and doesn't miss a beat. .342/.497 on-base, 38 homers.