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All fair points, but I think that watching this team next year is going to be a bit of a painful slog. I'm currently think 5 is over/under on wins.
I'm fine with loses in 2022....for the greater good, so to speak.
 

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I'm fine with loses in 2022....for the greater good, so to speak.

I'm fine with the losses in 2022 if it means that we can rebound back to being a contender in a couple of years. But that seems really unlikely.

The way I see it, PC won't be our coach in 2023 and we will be seeing stories about the hubris of PC/JS being their downfall. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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I'm fine with the losses in 2022 if it means that we can rebound back to being a contender in a couple of years. But that seems really unlikely.

The way I see it, PC won't be our coach in 2023 and we will be seeing stories about the hubris of PC/JS being their downfall. I hope I'm wrong.
I see the Seahawks being competitive 2023 and a playoff team by 2023-2024. Glass half full.
 

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I see the Seahawks being competitive 2023 and a playoff team by 2023-2024. Glass half full.

Well I certainly hope you are right.

Sadly, I picture a lot of exasperated looks on Pete's face as he explains how we didn't execute the level he expected.
 

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I'm fine with loses in 2022....for the greater good, so to speak.

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With the first pick in the 2023 draft the Seahawks take xxxxx QB from YYYYY

My fear - With the ninth pick in the 2022 draft the Seahawks take xxxxx QB from YYYYY
 
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I think a lot of fans imagine that getting that No. 1 pick means future greatness when it rarely does.
No guarantees of course but better odds picking early then late that why 1st round picks are more valuable then 7th round picks. Think everyone is aware that QBs can bust no matter where they were picked.
 

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No guarantees of course but better odds picking early then late that why 1st round picks are more valuable then 7th round picks. Think everyone is aware that QBs can bust no matter where they were picked.

Sure. But being the No. 1 overall pick usually means that you don't have a very good team. And it would almost certainly mean a new coach and GM.
 

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Sure. But being the No. 1 overall pick usually means that you don't have a very good team. And it would almost certainly mean a new coach and GM.
Not if by design to execute a rebuild plan.
 

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I would be sad to see metcalf traded but it does make some sense. Trade him for a stud DL or OL? No idea who that would be off the top of my head but having a stud WR is one of the last needs for a rebuilding team
 

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Not in the same position as Pete. So apples and oranges.

Maybe. The only difference is that Jodi may or may not care how well the team does.

But the fanbase was already getting antsy with him before last season.

Honestly if the Seahawks win 5 or 6 and the Broncos make it to the AFC title game that would probably be enough to turn the fans completely against him.

Of course if the Seahawks win 10 and the Broncos miss the playoffs, Pete would be completely vindicated.
 

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Maybe. The only difference is that Jodi may or may not care how well the team does.

But the fanbase was already getting antsy with him before last season.

Honestly if the Seahawks win 5 or 6 and the Broncos make it to the AFC title game that would probably be enough to turn the fans completely against him.

Of course if the Seahawks win 10 and the Broncos miss the playoffs, Pete would be completely vindicated.
Jodi is obviously in Pete's corner or the trade never happens. Doubt she thinks 2022 is going to have many wins and whatever Pete's plan is has been explained by Pete to her and she's on board with it. If 2023 arrives and the plan starts coming to fruition the fans will come around ( those that aren't all ready on board). The plan looks solid, draft capitol-check, cap space-check, maneuverability to make moves-check.
 

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Jodi is obviously in Pete's corner or the trade never happens. Doubt she thinks 2022 is going to have many wins and whatever Pete's plan is has been explained by Pete to her and she's on board with it. If 2023 arrives and the plan starts coming to fruition the fans will come around ( those that aren't all ready on board). The plan looks solid, draft capitol-check, cap space-check, maneuverability to make moves-check.

The plan looks solid? What plan is that? So far the plan has been A) trade future Hall of Fame QB B) cut future Hall of Fame LB.

It's possible that PC/JS convinced Jodi that the team needed to tank for a couple of seasons in order to be title contenders again but I highly doubt it. I think it is far more likely that they said that they needed to reset at QB but that they would be competitive in 2022 and ready for a title in 2023.
 

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think it is far more likely that they said that they needed to reset at QB but that they would be competitive in 2022 and ready for a title in 2023.
Speculation based on your feelings on trading RW, it's ludicrous to say that Pete feels he can be competitive in 2022 because that just isn't a practical thing to expect ( or maybe I should ask you what constitute being competitive). I know Pete does a lot of coach speak where everything is peachy keen but doesn't mean he actually doesn't see the problems. I do expect Pete will try to win every game he can because that is how he's wired.
 

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Speculation based on your feelings on trading RW, it's ludicrous to say that Pete feels he can be competitive in 2022 because that just isn't a practical thing to expect ( or maybe I should ask you what constitute being competitive). I know Pete does a lot of coach speak where everything is peachy keen but doesn't mean he actually doesn't see the problems. I do expect Pete will try to win every game he can because that is how he's wired.

I'm getting getting a little annoyed at the "You're being emotional" rebuttals. I don't care about Wilson. I care about the team winning. And I see a team that kept a coach and GM that have shown no ability to adapt and got rid of a QB still in his prime. And I don't believe that Jodi cares that much about what the team will do in 5 years because she isn't invested in the team.
 
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