Who is your mvp right now and why? Week16

[Fountain City Blues]

Brees has sucked for about 4 weeks now.

It's absurd a guy with 4-5 meh games at best would win MVP over a guy with about 1, and inferior stats.

I understand why someone may think Brees will win, but it's a very cynical take.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Should be a difference between Valuable and Outstanding. Because the words mean different things.

I think Wilson is more valuable to Seattle than either of those guys are to their teams.

Maybe not quite as "outstanding", but for sure more valuable.

 

[Clayton]

Mahomes is kind of like Steve Nash on the Suns. If he isn't special then you really see all of the flaws on the team.

Seattle runs the ball more than anyone else and they have a good defense. Not even sure why he is in the conversation, tbh.

 

[JMR]

I think Mahomes' chances have taken a shot to the face with these last 2 losses. He was outdueled at home last week by Rivers, then last night by RW.

Brees deserves to get one, and this is as good a year as any.

Though I think he has no chance to get serious MVP consideration, an honorable mention case can be made for Russell Wilson. In a year immediately following the career ending injuries to Kam Chancellor & Cliff Avril, trading Bennett, cutting Sherman, and early season-ending injury to ET, Baldwin missing several games and being injured most of season, hardly anyone thought Seattle would have a chance at even 8-8, let alone playoffs. Russell is 3rd in TD passes despite being 20th in attempts, 112.7 passer rating (3rd behind Brees and Mahomes), a 34:6 TD to INT ratio, and locked into the playoffs and will probably end up with 10 wins if they can somehow beat AZ at home next week. Only QB in NFL history to start with 7 straight winning seasons.

 

[Iggloo]

I still think Mahomes gets the MVP, but the Chiefs are looking like a classic one and done Andy Reid playoff team right now.

 

[Ricky Roma]

A tie isn't unprecedented. I think for every guy who will be swayed by some superior stats that Mahomes has, there will be another who thinks a lifetime achievement award for Brees is due....plus the fact that he's having an excellent season as well.

 

[PatsFan2003]

My sentimental choice would be either Brees or Rivers. But it's hard logically to go against Mahomes.

Rivers and Wilson are playing the best right now. Mahomes has certainly had the better year overall. Brees in the sentimental favorite but I'd go with Mahomes right now. .

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Wilson to Baldwin is as clutch as it gets.

 

[Yo Tee]

I think it's down to Brees, Mahomes and Gurley. If Ben could stop throwing INTs, he'd be in the discussion as well.

 

[ericd7633]

Mahomes has been the best player, and most deserving. But that doesn't mean he'll win it. Dude is gonna throw for over 5,000 yards and 50 TD's. Lol. It would be laughable if he doesn't win it, and this is coming from someone who likes and respects Brees.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

curt cousins…cuz he wins in late december.

 

[SteelersPride]

Should be a difference between Valuable and Outstanding. Because the words mean different things.

I think Wilson is more valuable to Seattle than either of those guys are to their teams.

Maybe not quite as "outstanding", but for sure more valuable.

The running game is more valuable to Seattle than wilson

 

[dkmightyhammer]

The running game is more valuable to Seattle than wilson

I agree to a degree. But without the legit threat the Wilson poses teams would just stack the line and stuff the run more often. Seattle's run game wouldn't be nearly as effective if they had a shitty QB.

 

[SteelersPride]

I agree to a degree. But without the legit threat the Wilson poses teams would just stack the line and stuff the run more often. Seattle's run game wouldn't be nearly as effective if they had a shitty QB.

I agree the run game wouldn’t be as effective. But isn’t that the case with all run games? For the most part

 

[dkmightyhammer]

I agree the run game wouldn’t be as effective. But isn’t that the case with all run games? For the most part

Sure. Great QBs make the whole offense better because defenses need to respect what they can do. Wilson helps open holes for the run game because teams can't stack the box because they know he can throw the ball extremely well. He also does the read option probably better than any other QB and that is extremely helpful in opening lanes for the RBs.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

The running game is more valuable to Seattle than wilson

Sure.....

 

[SteelersPride]

Sure.....

K.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

I agree the run game wouldn’t be as effective. But isn’t that the case with all run games? For the most part

And let me add that I am absolutely NOT suggesting Wilson is in the running for MVP. He might get some 3rd place votes but Mahomes will run away with it. Brees has had a historic year too, breaking some records and having a 74% completion percentage, so he might get some votes. But Wilson is only in the discussion for 3rd or 4th place in my opinion. Still a great season though.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The running game is more valuable to Seattle than wilson

The Seahawks are 4th in EPA per dropback. This is the disease known as Martyball infiltrating Seattle tricking people into believe Wilson is non-essential.

 

[JMR]

And let me add that I am absolutely NOT suggesting Wilson is in the running for MVP. He might get some 3rd place votes but Mahomes will run away with it. Brees has had a historic year too, breaking some records and having a 74% completion percentage, so he might get some votes. But Wilson is only in the discussion for 3rd or 4th place in my opinion. Still a great season though.

Agreed.....but RW not even making the Pro Bowl is a joke.