....and he'll be traded only a year after being previously being traded.....and he won't be traded because Cleveland is about to get a haul for him.
Cleveland will get less than it gave up.....and beyond some Haley's comet/once in a lifetime stupidity...it's not even debatable.
You can’t change stupid, I’m notme - "point out what was said that was naive"
you - crickets (when you aren't agreeing with me)
Can't argue with irrational....though I tried.
No! He has pages of posts to the contrary. If you say something that makes sense, well he says something naive.It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....
....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.
Yeah....I'll stand on this one.
Just wait.You started this conversation that the Browns would have to cut him. That is absurd. He is under contract until 2023 and it's a much easier blow than Antonio Brown was and he is far less a headcase.
Amari Cooper fetched a first rounder on a near expiring deal.
Right, let the distractions continue.its good for the teamNot sure, but if not for what they want they would just keep him.
Right, let the distractions continue.its good for the team
I think they part of it for sure. There’s many many issues imho. Not good when u have a talent laden young team. That their foundational years are a messA slightly-related point: I don't think distractions are this team's problems. I think they chose a lightweight to be the head coach. Wasn't a fan of that move from day 1.
You started this conversation that the Browns would have to cut him. That is absurd. He is under contract until 2023 and it's a much easier blow than Antonio Brown was and he is far less a headcase.
Amari Cooper fetched a first rounder on a near expiring deal.
me - "what was said that was naive"
you -
Careful... You're talking to Mr. Gullible himself who is sporting his white knightly armor.It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....
....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.
Yeah....I'll stand on this one.
Careful... You're talking to Mr. Gullible himself who is sporting his white knightly armor.
Not only are there reports, but theres a video of him talking with Jimmy G about it. But the homer still refutes it by saying his best friend (Landry) and captian (Baker) both claim that he wants to be in Cleveland.
Yea that's a pretty big slap in the face to all his teammates that are buying into building that team into a contender. Clearly his teammates are trying to salvage the relationship by sticking up for him. But if that relationship isn't a 2-way street then they would be best served to trade the guy. No way you want that sort of toxic poison to reside in your lockerroom.Some people are just in denial, and I can somewhat understand. If you're a longtime Browns fan, heading into this season must've been almost like a dream...and to watch what has unfolded. As for that video with Garoppolo...yeah...I've seen it. Think about it. That's week 5, and he's already tapping out. Not year 5 in a shit-abyss of a franchise....week 5 of a team that is supposedly gonna turn it all around. That's a guy you want on your team?
No way.
Yea that's a pretty big slap in the face to all his teammates that are buying into building that team into a contender. Clearly his teammates are trying to salvage the relationship by sticking up for him. But if that relationship isn't a 2-way street then they would be best served to trade the guy. No way you want that sort of toxic poison to reside in your lockerroom.
As for the fans... Definitely. Most around here have been level-headed about it. Just 1 that doesn't have the mental resolve to digest it.
Reports surfacing today that the Browns intend to stick with Kitchens.I'll bet he'll still be a Brown next year unless OBJ just makes it clear he wants no part of the team at all.
They'll likely fire Kitchens and they'll look for an offensive minded coach and hope they can salvage the situation next season and get on track.
Dorsey will listen to offers and I'm sure a team like the 9ers will be calling since they really wanted him last offseason but I don't think they'll get a package that'll be enough to move him.
Yeah, saw your post in the Browns thread. Makes one wonder if they will ever turn that franchise around. As for Odell and the rest of that team makeup, tons of talent but no real leadership or foundation to build on. And need to fix the trenches or all that talent is worthless. OBJ is what he is, a diva WR. Always will be. Would not be one bit surprised to see his career go the same way as T.O. Bounce from team to team, never winning a ring and wearing out his welcome everywhere until teams just say fuck off.Reports surfacing today that the Browns intend to stick with Kitchens.
Did all the anti Cleveland/OBJ critics lose ability to comprehend what they read and have rational discussion? Hopes and dreams? If they want to trade OBJ then go ahead. It's not as though they have to do it under anyone's terms but their own.It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....
....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.
Yeah....I'll stand on this one.
I think they also traded a 3rd as well.He went for a first and a young safety previously. When he's on he's arguably the best receiver in the league. And he's on a reasonable deal
agree with everything but fire Kitchens. Dorsey strikes me as a guy with a huge ego and unless they lose out, I doubt he wants to admit he botched this decision. I think he's a near lock to stay if they get to 8-8.I'll bet he'll still be a Brown next year unless OBJ just makes it clear he wants no part of the team at all.
They'll likely fire Kitchens and they'll look for an offensive minded coach and hope they can salvage the situation next season and get on track.
Dorsey will listen to offers and I'm sure a team like the 9ers will be calling since they really wanted him last offseason but I don't think they'll get a package that'll be enough to move him.
Agree with that last comment. IF they trade him almost zero chance they get back what they gave up.....and he'll be traded only a year after being previously being traded.....and he won't be traded because Cleveland is about to get a haul for him.
Cleveland will get less than it gave up.....and beyond some Haley's comet/once in a lifetime stupidity...it's not even debatable.