Westbrook-for-Hayward in the works this summer?

[trojanfan12]

Sacramento's? Orlando's?

To be fair, Lebron the GM has always had one thing those other GM's don't....Lebron the player.

This is the first time Lebron the player hasn't been enough to cover for Lebron the GM.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Run it back next season and then have cap space after next season.

Already a bad fit. It can get better but there is a ceiling and it isn’t high

 

[bksballer89]

If I'm the Lakers, I give Jordan a call.

I'll give you Russ for Gordon and Rozier

 

[trojanfan12]

Already a bad fit. It can get better but there is a ceiling and it isn’t high

Yeah, despite the high hopes everyone had, I think we saw enough to know that this ultimately wasn't going to work. If they run it back just changing out some of the 1 year deal guys, get the bench completely right and everyone stays healthy...you could make a case that they could contend. But that would require everything going 100% right...which isn't happening.

 

[trojanfan12]

If I'm the Lakers, I give Jordan a call.

I'll give you Russ for Gordon and Rozier

I'll tell Jeanie to tell Rob to do that when I buy her breakfast tomorrow morning.

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah, despite the high hopes everyone had, I think we saw enough to know that this ultimately wasn't going to work. If they run it back just changing out some of the 1 year deal guys, get the bench completely right and everyone stays healthy...you could make a case that they could contend. But that would require everything going 100% right...which isn't happening.

Plus, it's not like that would make them anywhere close to favorites. Even with 100% luck on injuries and stuff.

 

[The Q]

To be fair, Lebron the GM has always had one thing those other GM's don't....Lebron the player.

This is the first time Lebron the player hasn't been enough to cover for Lebron the GM.

Exactly. Lebron isn’t a good gm

He has the player to bail him out

 

[The Q]

This is just Jordan being impossibly cheap

I believe Charlotte is the only team to never pay the tax

 

[msgkings322]

This is just Jordan being impossibly cheap

I believe Charlotte is the only team to never pay the tax

Pretty on brand for MJ

 

[trojanfan12]

Plus, it's not like that would make them anywhere close to favorites. Even with 100% luck on injuries and stuff.

If they do decide to run it back and save the cap space for the following season, I'm good with it.

But I prefer taking a shot at something that could make you a contender, even if it ultimately fails. If they can upgrade the bench as well, this could do that.

 

[trojanfan12]

I believe Charlotte is the only team to never pay the tax

I hear they have a parade for that every year.

 

[shopson67]

True.

I think that if I'm the Lakers, I'm doing it and crossing my fingers. lol

I'm just not confident that MJ won't come to his senses. I'm also not sure this is anything more than speculation.

It would definitely be a risk, but at least it's a risk with a guy who would actually fit with Lebron.

You have to remember who Jordan's GM is....and he isn't likely to help the Lakers.

 

[The Q]

If they do decide to run it back and save the cap space for the following season, I'm good with it.

But I prefer taking a shot at something that could make you a contender, even if it ultimately fails. If they can upgrade the bench as well, this could do that.

really hard to toss away another year with Bron.

 

[wildturkey]

Like I said in the season thread when Marc Stein had the story a couple of days ago, its a plausible deal that works for both side IF Charlotte things they hit their ceiling and want to use Westbrook's expiring to clear a large chunk of space to build around Ball and Bridges. It makes zero sense basketball wise for next season because Westbrook + Ball is just as bad as Westbrook + Lakers, but if you're gonna be a 9 seed anyway, it's something worth considering. Especially if you can convince the Lakers to toss in at least one of the 1st rounders they have available to trade (27 or 29)

As for the Lakers, any deal where you can get 2 to 3 players back for Westbrook is a win. He's an atrocious fit. Even with Hayward being injury prone, it'd still be an upgrade. And if by some miracle Hayward can stay healthy, him and Rozier with Bron and AD is a pretty solid group.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Word on CBS is that Michael Jordan may be looking to shed salary by absorbing Westbrook's expiring contract, due to the fact that Charlotte needs to pay Miles Bridges.

Gordon Hayward has two years left on his deal. Such a trade would likely send Hayward and a filler (Oubre or Plumlee) to the Lakers for Westbrook.

Thoughts?

Anything would have to be an improvement... Latest article stated this week that Westbrook never did respect the head coach.. Vogel...

 

[tlance]

Run it back next season and then have cap space after next season.

Dude.

Running it back next season is not an option.

You would completely waste your last season with LeBron.

And judging by how Anthony Davis is going, cap space around him as a number 1 is probably not getting you all that far either.

 

[BigKen]

Too often, these trade scenarios are brought up by someone with little else to do. With the Lakers out of the playoffs, the scribes in LA are doing the "Wishin' and Hopin'" routine.

Few teams in the NBA are going to put themselves in a bad situation just to help out another team. Acquiring Westbrook is a bad move for any team. He can't play worth a shit any more and more interested in himself than anything else. Why would anyone want to assume his attitude for a year and threaten their own team?

Bill Belichick has a reputation of taking on bad guys and turning them around. Problem is that everyone ignores the ones he gets and has to cut after one year. Westbrook has too much tenure and past reputation for anyone to change.

 

[tlance]

Too often, these trade scenarios are brought up by someone with little else to do. With the Lakers out of the playoffs, the scribes in LA are doing the "Wishin' and Hopin'" routine.

Few teams in the NBA are going to put themselves in a bad situation just to help out another team. Acquiring Westbrook is a bad move for any team. He can't play worth a shit any more and more interested in himself than anything else. Why would anyone want to assume his attitude for a year and threaten their own team?

Bill Belichick has a reputation of taking on bad guys and turning them around. Problem is that everyone ignores the ones he gets and has to cut after one year. Westbrook has too much tenure and past reputation for anyone to change.

The reason Charlotte would make a move like this is clear.

1 year of Westbrook clears their books of longer term contracts they don’t want.

I don’t think they should do a deal like this, but that is the reason.

 

[DJ]

Dude.

Running it back next season is not an option.

You would completely waste your last season with LeBron.

And judging by how Anthony Davis is going, cap space around him as a number 1 is probably not getting you all that far either.

If they want to trade him.....revisit the Rockets trade of Wall and Wood for him.

But, the Hornets trade means the Lakers could have James, AD and GH in street clothes for at least 20 or more games. That isn't good at all.

 

[DJ]

Dude.

Running it back next season is not an option.

You would completely waste your last season with LeBron.

And judging by how Anthony Davis is going, cap space around him as a number 1 is probably not getting you all that far either.

And it isn't wasting a season either.

The Lakers were 11-10 with James, AD and RW. If they had played 36-38 games they would have made the playin. Would have won more games than they did and more time to build chemistry together.

 

[Mebert]

The reason Charlotte would make a move like this is clear.

1 year of Westbrook clears their books of longer term contracts they don’t want.

I don’t think they should do a deal like this, but that is the reason.

Westbrook is not just an expiring deal though. He has a track record of destroying team chemistry. If you are trading for him or better be to be paying him to stay home.