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Checking in on the T'Wolves and Suns...Two traditionally mismanaged franchises

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Pretty sure that's the other way around, for I've been talking basketball this whole thread, and lol @ "her" :L

@handicappers What say you...Did Brian instigate all this? :scratch:


Brian the Tucker is a dipshit troll instigator. Just change your screen name and root for the Lakers and you'll be protected too, like Teflon.
 

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So bad. That was pretty terrible.

They also should’ve taken a Luca after hiring his coach.

That says it all... Already had a huge talent on Dragan Bender in the team and instead of picking Doncic who was the ideal choice to pair with Bender, especially since Luka and Dragan would have the ideal coaching system on Kokoskov that could take the most out of them, they ignored Kokoskov's suggestion to pick Doncic and drafted Ayton instead...

As a consequence, Bender and Ayton had many conflicts between them in the training camp because they have a completely different idea on how the game is played and Bender asked to be released from the team... Next, they fired Kokoskov and lost Bender to the Bucks for nothing...
 

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That says it all... Already had a huge talent on Dragan Bender in the team and instead of picking Doncic who was the ideal choice to pair with Bender, especially since Luka and Dragan would have the ideal coaching system on Kokoskov that could take the most out of them, they ignored Kokoskov's suggestion to pick Doncic and drafted Ayton instead...

As a consequence, Bender and Ayton had many conflicts between them in the training camp because they have a completely different idea on how the game is played and Bender asked to be released from the team... Next, they fired Kokoskov and lost Bender to the Bucks for nothing...

This is all so wrong it hurt reading.
 

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You don't think Cam Johnson can play? :scratch:
i def think Cam Johnson can play--- and he is a great shooter- but he is actually older than Booker--- everything I saw had him going in the 20's.

It just surprises me that the Suns really try and tank, are in position to take a point guard of the future--- and then trade down and take a guy that is a pure stretch 4 for bad draft value right after they trade for a pure stretch 4 in Saric.

It just didnt make any sense to me.

in a vacuum I think Cam Johnson is going to stick around the NBA for al ong time. He is going to be a useful role player- but the Suns just screwed up their draft royally got bad value at a position I really didnt think they even needed.
 

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Yes... He attracted my interest with the numbers he was putting on the board with the Wolves... I didn't know him before though...

Both Cameron and Frank Mason were signed on a 2-way because all 15 roster spots are currently taken... They will both be converted to regular as soon as there will be vacancies in the roster.

They had 2 open roster spots when they gave Reynolds the 2 way contract. The only way he is going to join the team on a full contract is if there are injuries.
 

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They had 2 open roster spots when they gave Reynolds the 2 way contract. The only way he is going to join the team on a full contract is if there are injuries.

Actually no... The Bucks FO already knew that the final two spots will be filled by Korver and Bender and therefore had no other choice as to waive their previous 2-ways so that they can secure Reynolds & Mason...
 

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Actually no... The Bucks FO already knew that the final two spots will be filled by Korver and Bender and therefore had no other choice as to waive their previous 2-ways so that they can secure Reynolds & Mason...

A lot of words for you to say that the Bucks agreed that Reynolds was not good enough for either of the roster open spots when they signed him to a 2-way.
 

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That says it all... Already had a huge talent on Dragan Bender in the team and instead of picking Doncic who was the ideal choice to pair with Bender, especially since Luka and Dragan would have the ideal coaching system on Kokoskov that could take the most out of them, they ignored Kokoskov's suggestion to pick Doncic and drafted Ayton instead...

As a consequence, Bender and Ayton had many conflicts between them in the training camp because they have a completely different idea on how the game is played and Bender asked to be released from the team... Next, they fired Kokoskov and lost Bender to the Bucks for nothing...

Huge talent in Dragan Bender? How many years does it take to start seeing that talent? 3 years and nothing much to show thus far. He was about to go back to Europe, as nobody was showing much interest in free agency.

Suns didn't "lose him", they weren't that worried about keeping him. They declined his option back in October.
 

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Huge talent in Dragan Bender? How many years does it take to start seeing that talent? 3 years and nothing much to show thus far. He was about to go back to Europe, as nobody was showing much interest in free agency.

Suns didn't "lose him", they weren't that worried about keeping him. They declined his option back in October.

Have you taken time to factor in that he signed with the Bucks?
 

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Have you taken time to factor in that he signed with the Bucks?

Yeah... that means something by itself doesn't it? Everybody wants to be with the Bucks these days...
 

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Huge talent in Dragan Bender? How many years does it take to start seeing that talent? 3 years and nothing much to show thus far. He was about to go back to Europe, as nobody was showing much interest in free agency.

Suns didn't "lose him", they weren't that worried about keeping him. They declined his option back in October.

Actually he had a great season during 17/18 (while only 19yo when the season started), but wanted out after they signed Ayton and not Doncic... He only played last season after Ayton was injured and then on a roll that doesn't suit his game...
 

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Yeah... that means something by itself doesn't it? Everybody wants to be with the Bucks these days...

Everyone? A TOSB version of Korver, a former #4 pick in Bender that the Suns didn't want any more that was about to go back to Europe due to lack of interest, a team mascot in Robin Lopez and the shadow of Wes Matthews, who hasn't been the same since tearing his achilles in 2015 and was waived by the Knicks.
 

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Actually he had a great season during 17/18 (while only 19yo when the season started), but wanted out after they signed Ayton and not Doncic... He only played last season after Ayton was injured and then on a roll that doesn't suit his game...

6 and 4 in 20 minutes on 38.6% shooting is great? Then McGee must be all-world, since he doubled those numbers, including the shooting percentage nearly.
 

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Everyone? A TOSB version of Korver, a former #4 pick in Bender that the Suns didn't want any more that was about to go back to Europe due to lack of interest, a team mascot in Robin Lopez and the shadow of Wes Matthews, who hasn't been the same since tearing his achilles in 2015 and was waived by the Knicks.

Yes... everyone wants to be a Buck these days... We therefore choose those we need among the plenty that are in the cue line... We don't care much of what you think about those we choose... It's what we need to add as to win the title the only thing that is in our mind...

You'll figure it out when we'll play against you and bully your Lakers on the floor again this season...
 

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Yes... everyone wants to be a Buck these days... We therefore choose those we need among the plenty that are in the cue line... We don't care much of what you think about those we choose... It's what we need to add as to win the title the only thing that is in our mind...

You'll figure it out when we'll play against you and bully your Lakers on the floor again this season...

You take everything so personal. The Lakers weren't part of this discussion, the Bucks were. Stop lashing out lol.
 

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You take everything so personal. The Lakers weren't part of this discussion, the Bucks were. Stop lashing out lol.
But if you criticize the Bucks choices for their roster out of the plenty of options they have, then they still have to prove you wrong... What's better than bullying your team on the floor as to prove your criticism to be utter nonsense?
 

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But if you criticize the Bucks choices for their roster out of the plenty of options they have, then they still have to prove you wrong... What's better than bullying your team on the floor as to prove your criticism to be utter nonsense?

You claimed the Bucks were the “#1 free agent destination”

Then managed to sign a couple shooters at the end of their careers, a couple cast offs the suns and Wolves did not want and failed to resign 2of your top 6 players from last year.
 

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Actually no... The Bucks FO already knew that the final two spots will be filled by Korver and Bender and therefore had no other choice as to waive their previous 2-ways so that they can secure Reynolds & Mason...
Korver and Bender were both very interesting players to round out the roster with.
 
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