Tom Brady is OVERRATED

[NWPATSFAN]

Can you rephrase that in English please?

Sure re-read your last sentence in post #114. How much does a complaint cost? You tell me.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Why would you mention a center when the post mentioned Peyton Manning had no defense??

Throughout this post as well as many others there is reference made to TB having a better offense. Not hard to see the correlation for most. Peyton had an all pro center for his entire time in Indy.

 

[sonnyblack65]

If the D bailed out Manning then Brady is nothing without Vinatierri.

You know Brady had leads in all 6 SB's in 4th Q only to see blew some leads. If AV doesn't make the FG's in any of the SB's then they go into OT . And it's not if with PM, facts Jack. 70 QBR in 06 SB run and he was what in 50's past SB 2 t/o's 2 pt conv for points

 

[sonnyblack65]

Elway > Brady

I would have no problem with that or Montana one guy is 3/2 vs a dominant NFC and the other guy is 4-0 with a dominant team and was perfect in SB's

 

[sonnyblack65]

Classic fuckin Cowboy

Your about as correct as you were in your locks last week 0%

 

[sonnyblack65]

Attleboro is in fact a city,


The only argument is a "major city".

Providence RI is smaller than Fayetteville NC, and no one thinks Fayetteville is a "major city".

They do call it a city but usually with population under a 100k, they call it a "town" 43k people and nothing there

 

[sonnyblack65]

Why would you mention a center when the post mentioned Peyton Manning had no defense??

Mathis and Feeeney 2 great bookends disagree

 

[Broncos6482]

And lets not forget in that time, the Exec of the year, which is voted by NFL executives only, was awarded to him 6 times. If anyone's able to judge who's a great GM, I think GM's would have the best insight on that. I don't know if he's HOF worthy myself, but his peers seem to believe he is by far.

Ryan Grigson won executive of the year for having the number 1 pick when Andrew Luck was available, but that doesn't make him a good GM.

 

[Broncos6482]

Mathis and Feeeney 2 great bookends disagree

Two great players do not make a good defense.

 

[NEPatsfan]

They do call it a city but usually with population under a 100k, they call it a "town" 43k people and nothing there

Density of population is the determining factor, not total population.

Either way I don't consider Providence to be a major city.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Two great players do not make a good defense.

Miller and Ware do. I know you need a secondary but when you have 2 elite players that can pass rush the shit out of the QB it's nice.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Density of population is the determining factor, not total population.

Either way I don't consider Providence to be a major city.

You can mention Providence to just about any adult and they will tell you it's in RI. PC Bruins, Friars, convention center and major concerts at Dunkin Donuts center. Nobody outside 50 miles of Attleboro heard of it and Fayetteville if your in the military. Obviously it's not a major city like NY, LA Chicago etc you know 50 minutes drive and your in and out of the state

 

[Broncos6482]

Miller and Ware do. I know you need a secondary but when you have 2 elite players that can pass rush the shit out of the QB it's nice.

Ware is only great in spurts, and he's hurt now. The Broncos defense is great because they're loaded with talent across the board. They probably have the best secondary in the NFL, and they're loaded at pass rusher. Really the only area that's a question is defensive line, and I think that's why you see teams having more success running on them this season.

 

[NEPatsfan]

You can mention Providence to just about any adult and they will tell you it's in RI. PC Bruins, Friars, convention center and major concerts at Dunkin Donuts center. Nobody outside 50 miles of Attleboro heard of it and Fayetteville if your in the military. Obviously it's not a major city like NY, LA Chicago etc you know 50 minutes drive and your in and out of the state

They'll know it, because it pretty much is RI, but not for much else.

 

[sonnyblack65]

They'll know it, because it pretty much is RI, but not for much else.

Guess you have never been here NEP. Newport, America's Cup race and mansions ( breakers) Historic East side with Brown University, Narragansett beaches and much more for the smallest state

 

[NEPatsfan]

Guess you have never been here NEP. Newport, America's Cup race and mansions ( breakers) Historic East side with Brown University, Narragansett beaches and much more for the smallest state

Used to live on Rounds Ave.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Ryan Grigson won executive of the year for having the number 1 pick when Andrew Luck was available, but that doesn't make him a good GM.

Don't put words in my mouth. When Ryan Grigson is voted by his peers for the 6th time as GM of the year, then we can debate that.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Throughout this post as well as many others there is reference made to TB having a better offense. Not hard to see the correlation for most. Peyton had an all pro center for his entire time in Indy.

Well most of it. Leewenburg and Larry Moore and Jamey Richard weren't exactly great. I think that they did well building around his strengths, and Tarik Glenn was a great anchor at left tackle, but Tony Ugoh also anchored one of the best statistical offensive lines, and at the end they were starting 3 college guards and 2 college centers on that O-line too.

 

[Broncos6482]

Don't put words in my mouth. When Ryan Grigson is voted by his peers for the 6th time as GM of the year, then we can debate that.

I didn't put words in your mouth. I'm saying that the GM's don't always know what they're doing when they vote for Executive of the Year. Just as players don't always know best when they vote for Pro Bowlers, or the NFL's top 100 list. Sometimes when you're in the moment you make decisions that in hindsight don't look so great.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

I didn't put words in your mouth. I'm saying that the GM's don't always know what they're doing when they vote for Executive of the Year. Just as players don't always know best when they vote for Pro Bowlers, or the NFL's top 100 list. Sometimes when you're in the moment you make decisions that in hindsight don't look so great.

Yeah, year to year success can be quick and fleeting, which is my point as well.