The Seattle Seahawks have traded for Jamaal Adams

[NWPATSFAN]

Are you aware that in 4 years Adams already has 5 more sacks than Wilfolk had in a 13 year career?

Also, he's missed 6 games in 4 years, yet you act as if he is perpetually injured.

Your sad little bias continues to show.

Do you even watch the games? 6 are just the games he didn't play in. How about how oft he's left games just as a Hawk player? Here I'll help you with a few just to get you started.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/27/seahawks-safety-jamal-adams-leaves-cowboys-game-with-groin-injury/&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2rQLDcXaxPpmOH73aGpy-E

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/seahawks/jamal-adams-suffers-shoulder-injury-leaving-status-vs-rams-nfc-wild-card-game&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1q54cMImuMXkgDnjiHu-O3

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-will-see-what-happens-with-jamal-adams-the-next-few-days-with-hopes-he-can-play-against-rams/&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0yhqPIv1qD-lX5qK4CST9g

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Hmmm, like I said look at his trending numbers. That's a lot of $ for a player who can't even get on the field for 70% of his teams defensive snaps.

 

[rmilia1]

Hmmm, like I said look at his trending numbers. That's a lot of $ for a player who can't even get on the field for 70% of his teams defensive snaps.
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Adams could be the best safety in the NFL but he's still just a safety. If you're listing the most valuable positions in order you pretty much get through all of them before you get to safety

And now you're paying him 18M AND gave up 2 1s and a decent player

Trade keeps getting worse

 

[returnofjakedog]

Are you aware Wilfork weighed 340# by then end of his career. He couldn't run down Brady. Unlike Adams, Vince was a true run stopper who didn't blitz when he saw open field. Vince collapsed pockets. He actually did what a NT is paid to do.

......so what?? It doesn't change the fact that Adams, a S, already has 5 more sacks than Wilfolk, a DT, had in a 13 year career.

Besides, Adams will be getting paid to do what he is supposed to do. No difference there.

If you are allowed to being up irrelevant stats then it shouldn't be a problem if others do the same.

 

[returnofjakedog]

Adams could be the best safety in the NFL but he's still just a safety. If you're listing the most valuable positions in order you pretty much get through all of them before you get to safety

And now you're paying him 18M AND gave up 2 1s and a decent player

Trade keeps getting worse

You didn't read any of the dozen posts discussing his contract, did you?

Troll smarter, not harder.

 

[rmilia1]

You didn't read any of the dozen posts discussing his contract, did you?

Troll smarter, not harder.

I'm not trolling . Safety just isn't a valuable position . It's the RB of the defensive side of the ball

 

[returnofjakedog]

Do you even watch the games? 6 are just the games he didn't play in. How about how oft he's left games just as a Hawk player? Here I'll help you with a few just to get you started.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/27/seahawks-safety-jamal-adams-leaves-cowboys-game-with-groin-injury/&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2rQLDcXaxPpmOH73aGpy-E

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/seahawks/jamal-adams-suffers-shoulder-injury-leaving-status-vs-rams-nfc-wild-card-game&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1q54cMImuMXkgDnjiHu-O3

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-will-see-what-happens-with-jamal-adams-the-next-few-days-with-hopes-he-can-play-against-rams/&ved=2ahUKEwiri6fPnb7yAhUS4jgGHSAeBMMQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0yhqPIv1qD-lX5qK4CST9g

He is healthy at the moment. Time will tell.

It is kinda pathetic how hard you are rooting for him to fail though. But we are all very aware of your anti- everything Seattle and Seahawks agenda.

 

[returnofjakedog]

I'm not trolling . Safety just isn't a valuable position . It's the RB of the defensive side of the ball

You also believe that trading 2 mid to late 20 picks was overpaying despite it matching Adams' draft position value and the fact that he had already proven himself to be an established difference maker on a HOF trajectory.

I question your philosophy regarding the situation.

 

[rmilia1]

You also believe that trading 2 mid to late 20 picks was overpaying despite it matching Adams' draft position value and the fact that he had already proven himself to be an established difference maker on a HOF trajectory.

I question your philosophy regarding the situation.

Yes because you also have to pay Adams and gave up a solid player as well

If you were trading 2 late firsts for an earlyish first then it's a fine trade. But not when you factor in the money and what else you gave up . It's Adams were a shutdown CB, elite DE , great T or QB then it's worth it. He's not though. He's an elite safety .

 

[returnofjakedog]

Yes because you also have to pay Adams and gave up a solid player as well

If you were trading 2 late firsts for an earlyish first then it's a fine trade. But not when you factor in the money and what else you gave up . It's Adams were a shutdown CB, elite DE , great T or QB then it's worth it. He's not though. He's an elite safety .

Yep. An elite hybrid safety. He will be used according to his contract value.

Someone will always pay good players so...........?????? Each team has their salary charts and will allocate value according to their personal. Getting a proven commodity, particularly one with HOF potential for a couple on late firsts could end up being a big steal FOR the Seahawks.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

......so what?? It doesn't change the fact that Adams, a S, already has 5 more sacks than Wilfolk, a DT, had in a 13 year career.

Besides, Adams will be getting paid to do what he is supposed to do. No difference there.

If you are allowed to being up irrelevant stats then it shouldn't be a problem if others do the same.

Wilfork is just one example of a great player who wasn't a cancer, who did what a DT does, never held his team/s hostage, never claimed to be anything but a DT when it came to negotiation times.

They're not irrelevant, they are part of the sum.

Many Hawk fans don't want to admit this signing was, is, and will continue to be a mistake.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He is healthy at the moment. Time will tell.

It is kinda pathetic how hard you are rooting for him to fail though. But we are all very aware of your anti- everything Seattle and Seahawks agenda.

The part you overlook is where I said he's very good at tackling and rushing the QB.

I'm sorry his cancerous attitude, inability to stay on the field, and unable to cover overshadow how much Seattle invested in him so far.

He was hailed as the savior. The one who would get Seattle over the playoff hump. He was virtually invisible in his first and only playoff game. Like others have said he's a top safety but a hybrid safety isn't a game changer.

 

[returnofjakedog]

The part you overlook is where I said he's very good at tackling and rushing the QB.

I'm sorry his cancerous attitude, inability to stay on the field, and unable to cover overshadow how much Seattle invested in him so far.

He was hailed as the savior. The one who would get Seattle over the playoff hump. He was virtually invisible in his first and only playoff game. Like others have said he's a top safety but a hybrid safety isn't a game changer.

Cancerous attitude?!? Now you are just making shit up.

Again, he has missed 6 games in 4 years. You keep claiming that he is constantly injured, but it just isn't true.

"Hailed as a savior"?? No. People are excited to have him on the team, but no one is calling him a savior. An impact player, a difference maker? Sure! But savior is overstating things.

The signing may or may not turn out to be a mistake but to emphatically declare it so at this point is utterly ridiculous. However it does fit your anti- everything Seattle and Seahawks agenda.

 

[returnofjakedog]

Wilfork is just one example of a great player who wasn't a cancer, who did what a DT does, never held his team/s hostage, never claimed to be anything but a DT when it came to negotiation times.

They're not irrelevant, they are part of the sum.

Many Hawk fans don't want to admit this signing was, is, and will continue to be a mistake.

He was also a D-lineman who could only get to the QB about once a year on average.

So what you are saying is that he was a nice guy who was effective but extremely one dimensional. Hmmmmmm.......yeah, great comparison on your part! (The green text is implied).

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Cancerous attitude?!? Now you are just making shit up.

Again, he has missed 6 games in 4 years. You keep claiming that he is constantly injured, but it just isn't true.

The signing may or may not turn out to be a mistake but to emphatically declare it so at this point is utterly ridiculous. However it does fit your anti- everything Seattle and Seahawks agenda.

Don't let facts get in the way of your homer narrative.

If playing less then 70% of a teams defensive snaps, at the cost of 2 firsts + and a crazy salary for a hybrid safety is considered a good deal we need to talk. I got a lot of junk to sell you. It's not just games he didn't even suit up for.

Cancerous, yes. He's been a complainer since he joined the league. Ask NFL fans. Even some honest Hawk fans were sick of his sitting out and pouting about not being paid.

Mark my words, within two years he'll be wanting a new contract. Basing it either on the Hawks not letting him rush enough so his numbers suffered, or he continues to be an undersized DE who can't cover and his sack totals go up.

Enjoy.

Who doesn't get signed next because they have to pay him to save face?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

He was also a D-lineman who could only get to the QB about once a year on average.

So what you are saying is that he was a nice guy who was effective but extremely one dimensional. Hmmmmmm.......yeah, great comparison on your part! (The green text is implied).

No what I'm saying is he was a dominant NT. Who did what is expected out of a 340# DL. Take up blocks, collapse the pocket, and force runners to go outside. Pretty simple to understand for those of us who didn't learn football from Madden and FFL.

Oh and yes being a "nice guy" (your words) equates to team chemistry. Will was and always will be respected for his leadership as well as his off field charity work.

 

[returnofjakedog]

No what I'm saying is he was a dominant NT. Who did what is expected out of a 340# DL. Take up blocks, collapse the pocket, and force runners to go outside. Pretty simple to understand for those of us who didn't learn football from Madden and FFL.

Oh and yes being a "nice guy" (your words) equates to team chemistry. Will was and always will be respected for his leadership as well as his off field charity work.

Doesn't change the fact that he was a D-lineman who was extremely one dimensional.

Your comparison is just weak.

Oh, and he didn't "collapse the pocket" very often at all, so you can stop trying to make him more than what he was.

Your ridiculous claims of him being a locker room cancer are just plain wrong. He clashed with Jets management to force his way out (can you blame him?) but all reports are he has been an ideal teammate in Seattle and is a leader and an on-field inspiration.

Your narrative reeks of your anti-Seahawks bias.

 

[returnofjakedog]

Don't let facts get in the way of your homer narrative.

If playing less then 70% of a teams defensive snaps, at the cost of 2 firsts + and a crazy salary for a hybrid safety is considered a good deal we need to talk. I got a lot of junk to sell you. It's not just games he didn't even suit up for.

Cancerous, yes. He's been a complainer since he joined the league. Ask NFL fans. Even some honest Hawk fans were sick of his sitting out and pouting about not being paid.

Mark my words, within two years he'll be wanting a new contract. Basing it either on the Hawks not letting him rush enough so his numbers suffered, or he continues to be an undersized DE who can't cover and his sack totals go up.

Enjoy.

Who doesn't get signed next because they have to pay him to save face?

Lol! Keep on trying NWPF.

His contract isn't nearly as you claim it is. Read the thread. He actually is making $4.86 million LESS than he was scheduled to this year, which will be used for Duane Brown's extension. So it is the opposite of your claim. The very good LT will be on the field BECAUSE of Adams' contract.

Oh, and it will be 3 years before contract talks are necessary, and it will be the Seahawks that will initiate them due to the base salary, not Adams due to the base salary. Again, maybe you should actually address the contract details instead of just making stuff up.

"Cancerous"?? No. His teammates love him. Try again.

 

[DHoey]

You also believe that trading 2 mid to late 20 picks was overpaying despite it matching Adams' draft position value and the fact that he had already proven himself to be an established difference maker on a HOF trajectory.

I question your philosophy regarding the situation.

Come on now, you know we could have turned those picks into Sony Michel and N'Keal Harry........

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Doesn't change the fact that he was a D-lineman who was extremely one dimensional.

Your comparison is just weak.

Oh, and he didn't "collapse the pocket" very often at all, so you can stop trying to make him more than what he was.

Your ridiculous claims of him being a locker room cancer are just plain wrong. He clashed with Jets management to force his way out (can you blame him?) but all reports are he has been an ideal teammate in Seattle and is a leader and an on-field inspiration.

Your narrative reeks of your anti-Seahawks bias.

You've obviously have watched less football than your partner who thought Wilfork retired 10 years ago.

No need to make Wilfork out to be more than he was. A dominant NT with 5 Pro Bowls and 2 SBs to his credit. You need to go back and watch NEs game. Even if Vince didn't collapse the pocket (which he did) he did everything expected of his position. A monster who needed to be double teammed. Who forced the run into the teeth of the defense. A run stopping machine.