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The Dak Prescott Thread

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By no means would I suggest Dak isn't pivotal to this team. I'm really looking at why he feels his market value is so high
Always starts with an agent whispering in a players ear.
 

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What's the record without zeke
Including the game Dak played 10 plays 4-4. Excluding 4-3. They didn't lose one game they would have won if Zeke played. The idea that Zeke makes Dak is a silly narrative floated by people who don't watch Cowboy games.
 

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IMO with Zeke and Dak this year they are a top 5-6 team.
without Zeke and with Dak they are a borderline playoff team.
without both...obviously it isn't looking good.
Agree. And without Dak (and with Zeke) they probably win 4-5 games at best. Dak has them over a barrel right now.
 

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By no means would I suggest Dak isn't pivotal to this team. I'm really looking at why he feels his market value is so high
If Dak is seeking $40M per year my only reasoning is that he is high.

If he wants $40M he won't get a contract and will be tagged for 2 years. I suspect at some point he stops showing up for work and so be it, but it would be completely asinine for the Cowboys to give him $40M per year and I can't imagine they will. If he wants that he can join the FU club with Zeke.
 

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Including the game Dak played 10 plays 4-4. Excluding 4-3. They didn't lose one game they would have won if Zeke played. The idea that Zeke makes Dak is a silly narrative floated by people who don't watch Cowboy games.

I don't think Zeke makes Dak. I just don't think Dak is so above par that the Cowboys are a top 5 team with Dak and a basic RB.
 

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I don't think Zeke makes Dak. I just don't think Dak is so above par that the Cowboys are a top 5 team with Dak and a basic RB.
Correct. They MAY possibly be a top 5 team fully loaded including Zeke. Take any of their top guys (Dak, Martin, Smith, Zeke, Tank, both LBs and Jones) away and they aren't top 5 without a lot of luck
 

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As an extension $40M sounds about right. 1 X $2M + 4 X $40M would be 5 years at $162M. I could see the 1st 3 years being fully guaranteed at $84M. Additional guarantees would start to kick in late in year 2.
 
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lel,
There are more than a few teams that can judge Dallas, but Chicago ain't one considering Dak's stats are better than Mitch in just about every category.
Mitch in his first year of a complicated system and he was way better then dak. But not really relevant as Trubisky did not turn down 30 mil.
 

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Including the game Dak played 10 plays 4-4. Excluding 4-3. They didn't lose one game they would have won if Zeke played. The idea that Zeke makes Dak is a silly narrative floated by people who don't watch Cowboy games.
how many of those 3 losses were without the LT?
That was Daks real problem. Not Zeke missing.
 

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Mitch in his first year of a complicated system and he was way better then dak. But not really relevant as Trubisky did not turn down 30 mil.
My comment was about yours saying dak is a "bottom qb".
 
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My comment was about yours saying dak is a "bottom qb".
He is a bottom QB. He is average with a top RB and Oline. Without he would be benched. Trubisky is a fine young QB getting better and better and soon will be a star QB.
 
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LOL at this entire post...onward!!
LOL at your team. Pay for a great QB and get a average at best one, then lose good players to the cap. It worked for GB so it should work for you. lol.
 

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Mitch in his first year of a complicated system and he was way better then dak. But not really relevant as Trubisky did not turn down 30 mil.
and he'll never get the chance to...
 
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and he'll never get the chance to...
lol er ok. The truth is it will be higher then 30 when his contract comes due. So you're kinda right but in a stupid way.
 

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lol er ok. The truth is it will be higher then 30 when his contract comes due. So you're kinda right but in a stupid way.
Not for him it won't be :nono:
He stinks
 

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He is a bottom QB. He is average with a top RB and Oline. Without he would be benched. Trubisky is a fine young QB getting better and better and soon will be a star QB.
Dak has put up better numbers in each of his corresponding years (rooke vs rookie, 2nd vs 2nd).

To play the "without the OL he would be benched" game is stupid. He wins and is good enough to be a top-16 QB. For you to even pretend otherwise just shows that you are an idiot.

However, back to my initial statement...a lot of teams can say their QB is better than Dak. Bears fans certainly are not one of those teams.
 
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