So what does the Wrestlemania 35 card look like....

[UVA_Guy81]

When in the world is the Diva division push going to end? I swear each year it seems the Divas get more and more air time, when it used to be only about 10-15 minutes of spotlight a show, they've gotten to like an hour now it seems. Maybe it's time to cut RAW back to 2 hours and give the Diva's their own show?

Give them Smackdown, move Smackdown top guys back to RAW, cut the rest.

Move the cruiserweights back to RAW and move all of the women from both Smackdown and RAW to 205 Live and just call it something different.

 

[wazzu31]

Move the cruiserweights back to RAW and move all of the women from both Smackdown and RAW to 205 Live and just call it something different.

You can’t really do that though. USA and Fox are both going to want the woman’s division especially since the women >>>>>>>the 205 guys. Plus giving the women their own show would make their division lame. They are good for decent storylines between the men’s big storyline and then their squash matches they put on.

 

[The Q]

I just hope it’s not as boringly predictable as the rumble

 

[OregonDucks]

Move the cruiserweights back to RAW and move all of the women from both Smackdown and RAW to 205 Live and just call it something different.

You can’t really do that though. USA and Fox are both going to want the woman’s division especially since the women >>>>>>>the 205 guys. Plus giving the women their own show would make their division lame. They are good for decent storylines between the men’s big storyline and then their squash matches they put on.

I don't know if this is a reply or more just an observation and I've quoted you guys to keep it on topic. But I was stunned going to RAW and I swore the thing was 50/50 between the men's division and the diva's airtime. First the first 45 minutes of the show was all Diva's. Opened with McMahon/Rousey, than went to Rousey vs a stable and she got two matches out of it. I was surprised they didn't end the show too.

I cant ever remember seeing a RAW where the Diva's had so much airtime. But I realized being there why WWE has invested time in making the Divas a solid division. It was a ton more money. They'll always have their core fans, they'll always have that male demographic to follow along and buy their stuff, but investing into the Divas has absolutely paid off because now they are growing a whole new target audience. Women. Instead of John Cena appealing to the moms and daughters, they have an entire division to invest in. It's smart from a business stand point, but as a casual fan I really cant get into their storylines.

 

[wazzu31]

I don't know if this is a reply or more just an observation and I've quoted you guys to keep it on topic. But I was stunned going to RAW and I swore the thing was 50/50 between the men's division and the diva's airtime. First the first 45 minutes of the show was all Diva's. Opened with McMahon/Rousey, than went to Rousey vs a stable and she got two matches out of it. I was surprised they didn't end the show too.

I cant ever remember seeing a RAW where the Diva's had so much airtime. But I realized being there why WWE has invested time in making the Divas a solid division. It was a ton more money. They'll always have their core fans, they'll always have that male demographic to follow along and buy their stuff, but investing into the Divas has absolutely paid off because now they are growing a whole new target audience. Women. Instead of John Cena appealing to the moms and daughters, they have an entire division to invest in. It's smart from a business stand point, but as a casual fan I really cant get into their storylines.

Well it’s kind of a different era right comparing previous or future shows. Ronda Rousey is the biggest star in the company, and her alone is going to give the women more time than normal. And as gay as this is I prefer a lot of the chick stories and matches more than the 205 stories or nearly all of the men’s. Why Jeff Hardy is even with the company for the dumb shit he is put through is mind blowing.

 

[justanidiot]

Well it’s kind of a different era right comparing previous or future shows. Ronda Rousey is the biggest star in the company, and her alone is going to give the women more time than normal. And as gay as this is I prefer a lot of the chick stories and matches more than the 205 stories or nearly all of the men’s. Why Jeff Hardy is even with the company for the dumb shit he is put through is mind blowing.

Yeah, but word is she is off to make a baby land after wrestlemania, unless its just yet another contract up at wm like Lesnar.

 

[Yo Tee]

I hate how the question "Who will face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania?" has now turned into "Who will face John Cena at Wrestlamania?". Noone cares who Cena faces. Also, I hope somehow, Samoa Joe is in the WWE title picture come Wrestlemania. He's without a doubt the best on the mic on Smackdown. However, I think his match is going to end up being against Mustafa Ali. He eliminated him at the Royal Rumble so that kinda makes sense to me.

 

[wazzu31]

Yeah, but word is she is off to make a baby land after wrestlemania, unless its just yet another contract up at wm like Lesnar.

Could be but seems weird she would do it the baby making thing while they are starting to tease the 4 horsewomen stuff. But either way, I was just justifying why the women are getting equal time as the men because Rousey is better for business than most of the guys and Becky is the hottest thing going in the company.

 

[OregonDucks]

Unfortunately after Lesnar beat Undertaker at WM, I haven't cared about who Taker faces at WM, ESPECIALLY after he lost to Reigns at Mania as well. I guess even after the Lesnar loss there was still a little interest to his WM matches, but after putting Reigns over at Mania? No Thanks.

Like wazzu said, there just isn't that many attracting mens storylines right now. Lesnar being champ and being part time probably at this point has really hurt the product. At first it worked, made sense and was realistic and fit well. But couple years of this? Time to move on.

 

[Toadman005]

Unfortunately after Lesnar beat Undertaker at WM, I haven't cared about who Taker faces at WM, ESPECIALLY after he lost to Reigns at Mania as well. I guess even after the Lesnar loss there was still a little interest to his WM matches, but after putting Reigns over at Mania? No Thanks.

Like wazzu said, there just isn't that many attracting mens storylines right now. Lesnar being champ and being part time probably at this point has really hurt the product. At first it worked, made sense and was realistic and fit well. But couple years of this? Time to move on.

I am beyond bored with the mens division I'm comatose. For starters 90% of the wrestlers don't look like wrestlers. None of them. They're undersized (short), underdeveloped (scrawny), with lame gimmicks and looks. Combine that with heat lacking lame storylines, and angles that go no where and well, I'm done.

At least with the women, you have beautiful chicks many of the stars with their own look, and some personalities.

 

[Mistaken4193]

I am beyond bored with the mens division I'm comatose. For starters 90% of the wrestlers don't look like wrestlers. None of them. They're undersized (short), underdeveloped (scrawny), with lame gimmicks and looks. Combine that with heat lacking lame storylines, and angles that go no where and well, I'm done.

At least with the women, you have beautiful chicks many of the stars with their own look, and some personalities.

Nobody is the complete package on the mens side except maybe DB and KO...those that can perform in Ring( Rollins,Balor, AJ) suck on the mic. And those who are solid on the microphone(like Elias) suck in ring.

 

[futballiscool]

Nobody is the complete package on the mens side except maybe DB and KO...those that can perform in Ring( Rollins,Balor, AJ) suck on the mic. And those who are solid on the microphone(like Elias) suck in ring.

I always thought Rollins was good on the mic and AJs worked his way up to solid. Samoa Joe is top tier at both

 

[The Q]

I always thought Rollins was good on the mic and AJs worked his way up to solid. Samoa Joe is top tier at both

Joe not getting more love is crazy.

AJ is a better version of HBK without the pre-pubescent crap.

Stroman is probably like Kane more than anything else. But they even put the strap on him.

you're right that we are missing out on some giants like another undertaker, or Kane, even Austin was a pretty big dude.

Vince had a thing against cruiserweights for a while, and he was probably right in general. There are some exceptions though.

But I will never understand fans with the love weirdos or fakes like Bryan's weird run and Lynch's laughable gimmick get.

 

[Toadman005]

Joe not getting more love is crazy.

AJ is a better version of HBK without the pre-pubescent crap.

Stroman is probably like Kane more than anything else. But they even put the strap on him.

you're right that we are missing out on some giants like another undertaker, or Kane, even Austin was a pretty big dude.

Vince had a thing against cruiserweights for a while, and he was probably right in general. There are some exceptions though.

But I will never understand fans with the love weirdos or fakes like Bryan's weird run and Lynch's laughable gimmick get.

Bryan sucks. The WWE needs the average roster to be bigger and bulkier. These cut up 5'7" baby faced soy boys don't cut it.

Why do you hate Becky so much?

 

[The Q]

Bryan sucks. The WWE needs the average roster to be bigger and bulkier. These cut up 5'7" baby faced soy boys don't cut it.

Why do you hate Becky so much?

Cause I don't buy her gimmick at all.

I don't find it remotely believable. It's so forced. She's a ginger dork trying to be the female stone cold.

I get WWE trying to be all woke and push this. But I don't buy it.

Rousey would rip her arm off in 2 seconds.

At least a world class in ring technician like Flair or Asuka provide something.

 

[The Q]

Bryan sucks. The WWE needs the average roster to be bigger and bulkier. These cut up 5'7" baby faced soy boys don't cut it.

Why do you hate Becky so much?

I agree on the size issue.

The Rock and Austin were still big guys.

Diesel, Undertaker, etc were great.

I did love Bret Hart and Malenko though because they were GREAT technicians. That can work if you do it right too. But WWE doesn't have many of those right now either.

Maybe that's why I have some hope for Lashley. Dude is yoked and a legit fighter.

Joe is a big guy. Also really good on the mic. WWE really failed to push both him and Stroman after that epic Summerslam 2017 match.

Styles is fun to watch. And since he's not facing giant monsters its totally believable that he can do what he does too.

 

[OregonDucks]

I was a fan of some of the normal looking dudes for a bit, like CM Punk, Bryan's first push, but I got to go with Toad on this now and I don't think I realized it until he brought it up, but a lot of the baby faces are smaller dudes. I guess it is getting pretty weak looking.

I was in awe at how bad last nights promo was with Rollins and his little interaction with Paul Heyman. First, again, so stupid that the universal champion and headliner of WM is maybe only going to be on RAW a handful of times before the match in 2 months. Again, that worked at first when Lesnar first came back to the WWE, because it was new, unique, and worked. But after how many years now? of him just being a part timer, it is getting ridiculous, and a lot of these guys now NEED the belt to make things interesting, not like it used to be where wrestlers could shine and make their storyline important without the title being involved. Unfortunately right now with what the roster is, the belt is needed amongst this talent to make things feel important.

Strowman is already ruined. Just like WWE absolutely shredded Bray Wyatt's character. Strowman should have been the biggest baddest heel that destroyed Lesnar (when Lesnar was face) and took the belt, and just held onto it as being the big bad unbeatable giant. Basically what Lesnar is now, but the difference being Strowman is a full time guy.

Elias is maybe the best heel in the company right now (due to his mic work) and he is regulated to pushing the old returning legend guys.

Buy yeah, there is no legit heel right now within the business, it is odd.

 

[The Q]

I read that rousey had previously agreed to lose to charlotte, and after the bad gimmicks personal Twitter antics she doesn’t want to drop the belt to her despite how “over” she is

 

[jeffro151]

I read that rousey had previously agreed to lose to charlotte, and after the bad gimmicks personal Twitter antics she doesn’t want to drop the belt to her despite how “over” she is

Becky may go over, but nothing will get more heat than if Ronda walks out both titles. That is what is best for business. No chance Charlotte wins, imo.

 

[Yo Tee]

Beck may go over, but nothing will get more heat than if Ronda walks out both titles. That is what is best for business.

100% agreed. If they want Ronda to be a mega heel, they need her to have both belts AND tap Becky out in the process. However, I do believe WWE have set up the perfect scenario to have the 4 horsewomen end the show all as champions.