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100% agreed. If they want Ronda to be a mega heel, they need her to have both belts AND tap Becky out in the process. However, I do believe WWE have set up the perfect scenario to have the 4 horsewomen end the show all as champions.

Can they do that when it’s now winner take all?
 

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Becky may go over, but nothing will get more heat than if Ronda walks out both titles. That is what is best for business. No chance Charlotte wins, imo.

Charlotte wins the next night on raw.

Rousey gets the heat.

Then takes her break
 

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Can they do that when it’s now winner take all?

I don't think they can now. Ronda winning it all seems to be the best bet, because Becky or Charlotte winning it all would mean that they would HAVE to get defeated by someone at some point and that would just ruin her momentum, unless you have one win at Mania and the other win the other title off of the other one on the Raw or Smackdown after Mania. At least with Ronda, with her contract coming to an end and rumors of her stepping away from WWE, you could have her get kayfabe injured, drop the belts and have Raw and Smackdown women's tournaments for the titles.
 

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I don't think they can now. Ronda winning it all seems to be the best bet, because Becky or Charlotte winning it all would mean that they would HAVE to get defeated by someone at some point and that would just ruin her momentum, unless you have one win at Mania and the other win the other title off of the other one on the Raw or Smackdown after Mania. At least with Ronda, with her contract coming to an end and rumors of her stepping away from WWE, you could have her get kayfabe injured, drop the belts and have Raw and Smackdown women's tournaments for the titles.

They really should have one women’s belt. Not enough talent to spread it out like that
 

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Andre The Giant Battle Royal

RAW - Braun Strowman, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Jinder Mahal, No Way Jose, Bobby Roode, Chad Gable, Kalisto, Gran Metalik, Lince Dorado, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater, Rhyno, Viktor, Konnor
SMACKDOWN - Andrada, Ali, Shelton Benjamin, Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy
CELEBRITY - Michael Che, Colin Jost
FREE AGENT - Otis, Tucker, EC3

Women's Battle Royal

RAW - Dana Brooke, Mickie James, Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, Sarah Logan
SMACKDOWN - Asuka, Carmella, Naomi, Lana, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Zelina Vega
FREE AGENT - Nikki Cross
 

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His match vs Samoa Joe is in doubt.

 

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Andre The Giant Battle Royal

RAW - Braun Strowman, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Jinder Mahal, No Way Jose, Bobby Roode, Chad Gable, Kalisto, Gran Metalik, Lince Dorado, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater, Rhyno, Viktor, Konnor
SMACKDOWN - Andrada, Ali, Shelton Benjamin, Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy
CELEBRITY - Michael Che, Colin Jost
FREE AGENT - Otis, Tucker, EC3

Women's Battle Royal

RAW - Dana Brooke, Mickie James, Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, Sarah Logan
SMACKDOWN - Asuka, Carmella, Naomi, Lana, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Zelina Vega
FREE AGENT - Nikki Cross

Few questions I have about this card.

1. Why aren't the Raw Tag Team Titles being defended?
2. Why cheapen the ATG Battle Royal with Celebrity competitors? It already means nothing in the long run so I guess it can't be ruined/meaningless anymore than it already is.
3. Anyone else think that the Samoa Joe/Rey Mysterio match was just kinda thrown in there as an afterthought match? As much as I completely disagree with the Corbin/Angle match, that has more build to it than the US title match.
4. So much emphasis on the Women's revolution, yet there only gonna be 1 women's match on the main card. Yes, it's the main event, but come on now. What a cop out. 1 women's match and throw the rest of the women's roster in a pre-show battle royal. Seems like 2 steps forward (main event) and 1 step back (pre-show filler match).
 

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2. Why cheapen the ATG Battle Royal with Celebrity competitors? It already means nothing in the long run so I guess it can't be ruined/meaningless anymore than it already is..


Simple - celebrity involvement gets mainstream attention. Same reason why they've had the likes of Snooki and Maria Menunos wrestle in year's past - it's a sure-fire way to get Wrestlemania highlighted on Entertainment Tonight, TMZ, Today Show, etc.
 

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Simple - celebrity involvement gets mainstream attention. Same reason why they've had the likes of Snooki and Maria Menunos wrestle in year's past - it's a sure-fire way to get Wrestlemania highlighted on Entertainment Tonight, TMZ, Today Show, etc.

Or used Lawrence Taylor in a main event...
 

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Simple - celebrity involvement gets mainstream attention. Same reason why they've had the likes of Snooki and Maria Menunos wrestle in year's past - it's a sure-fire way to get Wrestlemania highlighted on Entertainment Tonight, TMZ, Today Show, etc.

They didn't have to do that at least the last 3 years. Only reason to do that is because the product doesn't really speak highly for the show, which, honestly, it doesn't. Rollins/Lesnar, Becky/Ronda/Charlotte, Miz/Shane and Kofi/Bryan are probably the only matches that will sell the PPV.
 

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They didn't have to do that at least the last 3 years. Only reason to do that is because the product doesn't really speak highly for the show, which, honestly, it doesn't. Rollins/Lesnar, Becky/Ronda/Charlotte, Miz/Shane and Kofi/Bryan are probably the only matches that will sell the PPV.

Still looks far better than WM11
 

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They didn't have to do that at least the last 3 years. Only reason to do that is because the product doesn't really speak highly for the show, which, honestly, it doesn't. Rollins/Lesnar, Becky/Ronda/Charlotte, Miz/Shane and Kofi/Bryan are probably the only matches that will sell the PPV.



They did have Gronk involved in WM33 in a physical manner, and the Rock in WM32 in that 5 second match with the Wyatts. Last year, it was Ronda's first match so that alone gave a big amount of mainstream attention.
 

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They did have Gronk involved in WM33 in a physical manner, and the Rock in WM32 in that 5 second match with the Wyatts. Last year, it was Ronda's first match so that alone gave a big amount of mainstream attention.

Well The Rock at WM32 wasn't really a "celebrity" thing, he was a wrestler before being a movie star. But even so, they brought a wrestler back instead of a random celebrity. Ronda sold it last year because she was a wrestler in her first match. That's understandable. Gronk interfering in the last 30 seconds of the ATG BR isn't having SNL cast members being participants in the match and taking away spots from guys who AREN'T in the battle royal and DON'T have a match on the WM card like Dean Ambrose or The Revival or even putting Lio Rush in there and still have him escort Lashley to his match or 205 live guys like Akira Tozawa or Cedric Alexander.

Sounds like the product just isn't enough to get people in seats this year.

Like I stated earlier, Rollins/Lesnar, Becky/Ronda/Charlotte, Miz/Shane and Kofi/Bryan are probably the only matches that will sell the PPV. The rest of the matches just aren't billed very well or built up very well to even care about. Batista/HHH seems to just be thrown together very late and sloppily, but because of their big time names, it's important to some fans. Styles/Orton is probably on the fringe just because of the promo from both of them on last weeks Smackdown. But every other match, I couldn't care less about and I would predict that feeling is felt amongst a majority of the WWE fans.
 

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Few questions I have about this card.

1. Why aren't the Raw Tag Team Titles being defended?
2. Why cheapen the ATG Battle Royal with Celebrity competitors? It already means nothing in the long run so I guess it can't be ruined/meaningless anymore than it already is.
3. Anyone else think that the Samoa Joe/Rey Mysterio match was just kinda thrown in there as an afterthought match? As much as I completely disagree with the Corbin/Angle match, that has more build to it than the US title match.
4. So much emphasis on the Women's revolution, yet there only gonna be 1 women's match on the main card. Yes, it's the main event, but come on now. What a cop out. 1 women's match and throw the rest of the women's roster in a pre-show battle royal. Seems like 2 steps forward (main event) and 1 step back (pre-show filler match).

1. Wikipedia must have added it after I posted. It is The Revival (c) vs Hawkins and Ryder
2. I think it will add drama to one (or both) eliminating Braun. Personally, I would love to see Braun dominate from start to finish and easily win. You never see the big monsters do that anymore, if they ever have.
3. I think Mysterio is using this run to hey Dominic into NXT. Mysterio has nothing to build and Samoa Joe won't fall to losing to Mysterio.
4. They clumped them too much. 3 in main event. 8 in tag team match. 12 in battle royal. Battle royal supposed have a large #. But 11 in 2 matches that normally would equal 6.

I don't mind the 3 in main events. I don't like any of the tag team matches.

WOMENS - IIconics got a push from nowhere. I just see Beth Phoenix being back or one more WM moment. I don't see her and Natalya being champions. It should be Sasha and Bayley vs Nia Jax and Tamina. Nia Jax is golden with a belt and Tamina is a nice wingman for Jax. Tamina doesn't need to say a word, just like Lesnar doesn't need to say a word. I want Jax and Tamina to win.

RAW - The Revival should be there. Hawkins and Ryder shouldn't. Hawkins and Ryder should have been build up matches and the Revival should have Richocet and Aliester Black in WM.

SMACKDOWN - Richocet and Black are good, but they are not at the level as Usos, Bar, and Rusev/Nakamura. I think the Usos and the New Day are the best tag teams right now, but they need a break from each other for a while. The Bar and Rusev/Nakamura are very talented as well. Richocet/Black fits better with Revival. Great setting for TLC matches, but not a plain tag match with 4 wrestlers. Or elimination match, but don't see them getting large enough WM slot for it.
 

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IMO, the most underrated matchup is IC Championship. Not because of Lashley or Balor, but because of Leo. He is golden as a manager. He is incredible on the mic. He can handle getting beat up. He is great at interrupting.
 

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Also, to the poster who thinks Ronda walking out with both belts is "best for business"...get that thought out of your head. That scenario died the instant they made the match the main event.

Becky's walking out with both belts, no matter how much kvetching Becky's biggest fan (The Q) does.
 
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