OT: PSU, Death Penalty?

[elocomotive]

I don't know, I think an argument could be made that we are a society that frequently blames the victims as well. Which is a fact that politicians and corporations, often those judge to be negligent or worse, take advantage of. Who cares if McDonalds had been warned numerous times and that they ignored the warnings about the coffee temperature? Who cares that the old lady needed skin grafts, had McDonalds run a public smear campaign against her (at times implying she was driving while she spilled it), and who cares if we do not know how much she really got? Who cares that she wanted to settle for $20,000 - enough to cover her lost wages and medical bills and McDs countered with $800. She was stupid and greedy.

Wow, someone knows the facts of the actual case rather than it being the poster-child of litigation gone wild. McDonald's settles many coffee suits every year and sells their coffee hotter than most fast food chains because Increased Sales > Settlement Costs.

We also live in a society that often declares anyone accused of anything guilty long before a trial. And if the charges are dropped or proven unfounded that's never as big of a story as the original charges.

Gets it, gets it, gets it...

 

[pixburgher66]

The statue came down this morning, and according to CNN the NCAA will be having a press conference tomorrow morning at 9am to levy staunch penalties. In fact the words used were "significant, unprecedented penalties".


Unprecedented?

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Indian burns and noogies?

 

[sbb122]

The statue came down this morning, and according to CNN the NCAA will be having a press conference tomorrow morning at 9am to levy staunch penalties. In fact the words used were "significant, unprecedented penalties".


Unprecedented?

The penalties could be across the entire PSU athletic departments and sports. After all, it was the Athletic Director who covered up pedophilia.

 

[boomtown]

anyone else think the ncaa might be trying to get penn state to self impose by neutering the program? SMU's punishment didn't end after the sanctions did

 

[pixburgher66]

I mean, if we're talking worse penalties than SMU...I mean, I trust that PSU, having more tradition than SMU by miles, would recover a little faster, but still. It would be years. Guess I can officially cross PSU off my grad school list.

 

[pixburgher66]

Report: No "Death Penalty" For Penn State

 

[Vadered]

So essentially it's going to be the Badgers against Purdue, Indiana, and Illinois for the division title?

Well, I'll just get these tickets to Indianapolis then...

 

[pixburgher66]

So essentially it's going to be the Badgers against Purdue, Indiana, and Illinois for the division title?

Well, I'll just get these tickets to Indianapolis then...

Hahah, some of my IU friends are getting sort of a teensy bit excited. One said "Well, we just need a few more teams to get punished and we'll have a shot"

 

[pixburgher66]

You know, initially my stance on this was that it wasn't the NCAA's place to do something, but now that I think about it, it really is their place. Beyond the fact that there's clearly a rule set in place for organizational issues, there's the fact that when you're in the NCAA you represent them, just like you represent your employer, and when you mess up somehow (like, you know, breaking the law), they have a right to punish you/fire you. I dunno, I do hope that the sanctions aren't to the point where other teams are hurt, but I think that may be unavoidable.

 

[puckhead]

 

[awaz]

at least they had the decency to shield his face from the media?

 

[pixburgher66]

Penn State will be fined between 30 and 60 million dollars according to http://CBSSports.com.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Good article from SI..... NCAA puts power in question with rapid decision regarding Penn State - Andy Staples - SI.com

Here is a small part of it, from Andy Staples...

Make no mistake, the Penn State case places the NCAA in a nearly impossible position. While there is no evidence anyone at Penn State broke any actual NCAA rules -- which mostly govern amateurism, competitive equity and academic integrity -- this could be the worst scandal to hit major college sports. How can the NCAA ever punish another program for paying players, fixing grades or practicing too much if it doesn't punish Penn State? On the other hand, there are no procedures in place to punish a program for violations of state statute. If Penn State gets punished in this case, why hasn't the NCAA punished any other programs because someone broke the law?

Emmert and the NCAA cannot win here. If they suspend Penn State's football program for any length of time, they'll punish hundreds who had nothing to do with the cover-up. If they take away scholarships, they'll get ripped for not being harsh enough. The math will get ugly. (Example: If the NCAA were to strip Penn State of 50 scholarships, it will essentially be saying that USC's Bush taking money from an agent is three-fifths as bad as covering for a child rapist.) The most logical penalty would be a massive financial sanction or a lengthy postseason ban (5-10 years) with no other sanctions. The latter would effectively cripple the program -- elite players wouldn't want to go to Penn State -- while still allowing current players to play their sport and earn Penn State degrees if they so desire. It also would avoid punishing Penn State's other programs as well as the other football programs in the Big Ten, which might have suffered financially from a canceled season or a television ban.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Good read, Boss... indeed, it's just a horrible situation, completely lose-lose for everyone. Really Penn State needs to bring the hammer down on itself so hard that the NCAA can wash it's hands of the whole thing.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Good read, Boss... indeed, it's just a horrible situation, completely lose-lose for everyone. Really Penn State needs to bring the hammer down on itself so hard that the NCAA can wash it's hands of the whole thing.

This is so true. It will be interesting to see what they do.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

From what I've read so far.... Penn State will wish they had received the death penalty instead...it's going to be crippling to the program none the less..

 

[pixburgher66]

If this picture is true. Holy. Crap.

 

[pixburgher66]

That said, I doubt that picture is true. It's too severe. They...they wouldn't do that, would they?

 

[sbb122]

OMG i hope number 10 is true. Paterno never deserved that wins record. The fucker didn't even coach. He sat in a press box without a fucking headset on.