Ongoing NHL thread - Part deux

[mattola]

It's not "putting yourself before the team". The team has money because players play hockey. The players have a right to try and get as much of that money every chance they get.

i agree with this. we all know they are overpaid and greedy, but so are the owners I think they will get it done.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

i agree with this. we all know they are overpaid and greedy, but so are the owners I think they will get it done.

I do too. But it might make for some sour dealings further down the road a la ROR.

 

[Otis B. Driftwood]

Call me crazy, but I don't think BBB is a fan of Brian Burke (lol)

Don't let words fool you... He misses the salad days of Burkie.

 

[mattola]

I do too. But it might make for some sour dealings further down the road a la ROR.

as much as both sides say its business, you gotta think it gets personal

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Don't let words fool you... He misses the salad days of Burkie.

Salad? The redness in his face suggests Burke hasn't had his greens since the mid-90s

 

[Darkstone42]

Call me crazy, but I don't think BBB is a fan of Brian Burke (lol)

Has BBB met BB?

It could be a B-hive.

 

[forty_three]

It's not "putting yourself before the team". The team has money because players play hockey. The players have a right to try and get as much of that money every chance they get.

I Don't blame him for trying to make money, but it's the Goose and the Golden egg thing. Is making 5 million per for three years really such a bad fate? When he made 800k this one? He should be looking a little more at the big picture. Sign, have two good years and cash in during your prime.

And the putting himself before the team was aimed more at the offer sheet way of getting the deal he wants (and no guarantee he will - but it's likely with this agent...). I would much rather see him sit down and negotiate in good faith than getting someone like Garth Snow to put a bunch of big numbers on a page because his GM said they'd match anything.

i agree with this. we all know they are overpaid and greedy, but so are the owners I think they will get it done.

as much as both sides say its business, you gotta think it gets personal

That's my worry. The chemistry was just right last year. I don't want anything to upset that (from either side). I hate when a player's side is like "Look at what *I* accomplished" and the team is like "Anyone could have done that". Neither is correct.

Calling a three year deal a "slap in the face" *is* a slap in the face to the guys that just got two year deals after their own breakout seasons.

 

[mattola]

I Don't blame him for trying to make money, but it's the Goose and the Golden egg thing. Is making 5 million per for three years really such a bad fate? When he made 800k this one? He should be looking a little more at the big picture. Sign, have two good years and cash in during your prime.

And the putting himself before the team was aimed more at the offer sheet way of getting the deal he wants (and no guarantee he will - but it's likely with this agent...). I would much rather see him sit down and negotiate in good faith than getting someone like Garth Snow to put a bunch of big numbers on a page because his GM said they'd match anything.





That's my worry. The chemistry was just right last year. I don't want anything to upset that (from either side). I hate when a player's side is like "Look at what *I* accomplished" and the team is like "Anyone could have done that". Neither is correct.

Calling a three year deal a "slap in the face" *is* a slap in the face to the guys that just got two year deals after their own breakout seasons.

I wish they would just negotiate OUT of the media, just shut the door and the media and get these things done

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I wish they would just negotiate OUT of the media, just shut the door and the media and get these things done

I think I saw it elsewhere here, but the point is probably to get other teams to OS him.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Two-year deal worth $850,000 per year

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I Don't blame him for trying to make money, but it's the Goose and the Golden egg thing. Is making 5 million per for three years really such a bad fate? When he made 800k this one? He should be looking a little more at the big picture. Sign, have two good years and cash in during your prime.

And the putting himself before the team was aimed more at the offer sheet way of getting the deal he wants (and no guarantee he will - but it's likely with this agent...). I would much rather see him sit down and negotiate in good faith than getting someone like Garth Snow to put a bunch of big numbers on a page because his GM said they'd match anything.





That's my worry. The chemistry was just right last year. I don't want anything to upset that (from either side). I hate when a player's side is like "Look at what *I* accomplished" and the team is like "Anyone could have done that". Neither is correct.

Calling a three year deal a "slap in the face" *is* a slap in the face to the guys that just got two year deals after their own breakout seasons.

I hear ya.

Ryan could also consider the fact that while he had a fantastic season and has a bright future, he scored 12 points in 40 games the previous season. General managers, at least the smart ones, want to see juuussst a little more than one good season (in Johansen's case one with a decent measure of puck luck) before they give players carte blanche in dictating their own contracts.

If Ryjo wants a 4 year deal he should be prepared to accept a 6+ year deal. See Karlsson, Erik or Tavares, John. You want that extra security, then give up some UFA years.

 

[pixburgher66]

Trib reporting that the Pens targets tomorrow are Pouliot and Kulemin. I have a feeling that getting both is out of the price range, but whooooo knows. Not sure what the market will look like until those first few deals trickle in.

 

[Cobiemonster]

 

[mattola]

@imseanavery: No SH$T #Spezza said NO to living in that dump city #Nashville

 

[dash]

@imseanavery: No SH$T #Spezza said NO to living in that dump city #Nashville

Is that a fake twitter handle? Nashville is widely regarded as one of the favo(u)rite cities for NHL players to visit.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Is that a fake twitter handle? Nashville is widely regarded as one of the favo(u)rite cities for NHL players to visit.

That seems to be the real handle

 

[mattola]

Is that a fake twitter handle? Nashville is widely regarded as one of the favo(u)rite cities for NHL players to visit.

That seems to be the real handle

Verified account

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

Happy free agency day!!

See y'all at noon!

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

@imseanavery: No SH$T #Spezza said NO to living in that dump city #Nashville

Sounds about right and likely something Avery would say. He's not afraid to open hos mouth on Twitter.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Is that a fake twitter handle? Nashville is widely regarded as one of the favo(u)rite cities for NHL players to visit.

C'mon dash, you can't really be surprised that Avery would say something like that.