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Nick Bosa... Can we have a realistic discussion?

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as far as the #1 pick. you have to see what trade options are out there and compare it to the talent. It appears to be a pretty weak draft class. The cards would be good if someone just blew it away at the combine and got an amazing trade package for that #1

If there isn't a big QB prospect in draft, seems hard to find teams willing to give up much to move up. Reminds me of the year SF drafted Alex Smith. They really tried trading down #1 pick but didn't any good offers.
 

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Bosa was never , at any point , even the best defensive player in the Big 10 so I am not sure how he's now the best player in the draft
 

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The only thing you can argue about is him going #1 BECAUSE of the injuries. He got doubled on a lot of plays. In comparison, here is Joey Bosa's numbers and I would say he is pretty damn good when he is on the field.

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That's with 9 more games.

Pretty damn good reason if you ask me.
 

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He wasn't drafted top 10 either.

Seriously....I have no fucking idea how you are trying to respond to the post in question. That Watt wasn't deserved of the top pick in his draft, knowing what we know now? That defensive players, no matter how much they've dominated in the pros...they don't deserve to be top 10 picks?

The post/link showed that stats aren't everything....especially when translating to the pros......and this is your counter?
 

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I looked at highlights, checked stats, etc.

Sure, he can be disruptive when on the field, but I do not see him as elite. The man-crush with this guy is mind boggling.
He's white?
 

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Bosa was never , at any point , even the best defensive player in the Big 10 so I am not sure how he's now the best player in the draft
Who was?
 

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2017 he wasn't even the best on his own team ( that was Ward ) and there were 3-4 other guys id have had ahead of him as well ( I believe Jewell won DPOY ) . 2016 he didn't do much so there's a laundry list of guys who were better . He may have ended up being the best this year but he only played 3 games so we will never know. The draft process is long so he will have plenty of opportunity to show his stuff but it's tough for me to pick a guy at 1 based on 1 decent year in college .
 

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2017 he wasn't even the best on his own team ( that was Ward ) and there were 3-4 other guys id have had ahead of him as well ( I believe Jewell won DPOY ) . 2016 he didn't do much so there's a laundry list of guys who were better . He may have ended up being the best this year but he only played 3 games so we will never know. The draft process is long so he will have plenty of opportunity to show his stuff but it's tough for me to pick a guy at 1 based on 1 decent year in college .

So....why are so many draft guys talking up Bosa as the #1 player in the draft?
 

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So....why are so many draft guys talking up Bosa as the #1 player in the draft?
Athleticism , raw speed and power would he my guess . Sane reason draft guys fall in love with a guy who can throw it 70 yards from his knees
 

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Athleticism , raw speed and power would he my guess . Sane reason draft guys fall in love with a guy who can throw it 70 yards from his knees

Exactly the opposite. When it comes to Bosa, they talk of hand placement, variety of pass rush moves, unlimited motor.

I'd love to see your source on Bosa though.....everybody else has him locked in at this point.
 

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2017 he wasn't even the best on his own team ( that was Ward ) and there were 3-4 other guys id have had ahead of him as well ( I believe Jewell won DPOY ) . 2016 he didn't do much so there's a laundry list of guys who were better . He may have ended up being the best this year but he only played 3 games so we will never know. The draft process is long so he will have plenty of opportunity to show his stuff but it's tough for me to pick a guy at 1 based on 1 decent year in college .
Who was better in the B1G this past year?
 

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Exactly the opposite. When it comes to Bosa, they talk of hand placement, variety of pass rush moves, unlimited motor.

I'd love to see your source on Bosa though.....everybody else has him locked in at this point.
All I said was he was never even the best defensive player in his own league ( and he wasn't ). If someone wants to take him 1 them go for it. We've had plenty of guys taken at 1 who were never the best in their own league . I wouldn't take him there but that's just my opinion
 

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All I said was he was never even the best defensive player in his own league ( and he wasn't ). If someone wants to take him 1 them go for it. We've had plenty of guys taken at 1 who were never the best in their own league . I wouldn't take him there but that's just my opinion

AGAIN....So....why are so many draft guys talking up Bosa as the #1 player in the draft?
 

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AGAIN....So....why are so many draft guys talking up Bosa as the #1 player in the draft?
I'd assume because they think he's going to be really good ? And he may be . Doesn't have anything to do with my op. Solomon Thomas was supposed to be great too. It's all just a guess
 
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