I agree too. how bout we focus on our writing and any unique things we would like to offer for the personal pages an we keep all our rankings as consensus neat and clean and easy to see. Once down the road I'll make the consensus rankings so that if a user clicks one of our names the list will be reorganized to our rankings while on the consensus page. Joe would it be hard to update my rankings to the newest list you did becuase I'd like to tweek mine? If not no worries I can wait but i did those rankings so darn fast because i was concentrating on the site itself I forgot to even rank my boy T-hill whom i think will be very solid this year with the addition of Wallace and the fact they are gonna feature a pass first oriented offense. Plus I got like 15 kickers on my list. not sure who that happened but like i said I was in a rush.