Mariners 2023 - 2024 offseason thread

[ulmax]

To..tell..the truth..the mariners.do not have..
To do tons of stuff..
Just something...and for sure..not.nothing..

Every team .usually..finds 3 and 4 hitters..
It's what .the mariners need...

No mariners don't need .to.trade..pitching.
They need too add .a.. LHP..starter
And
A closer..to go with what.they..have..

Last.a right handed .hitter..in outfield..
It's not that .big..like arosarina..

No sodo mogo ..develop is good..
Thomas .would do...of natbats.

 

[NWinAZ]

Check out this article that really gets into the decline in MLB viewership since the 70s. Even more profound than I though. Shocking really.

The article title has "World Series" in it of course, but it's more about all of MLB. Worth a read or glance, IMO.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/sport/baseball-world-series-viewership-problem-spt-intl/index.html

Baseball is too long (game wise an season wise) for younger fans. Hell, it is getting that way for me too. Why the hell we playing baseball into November? Why watch games early in the year when its August and September that gets interesting? Baseball is boring and that is coming form a 50 year fan. I watch Mariners, but little else. This is not a game for younger fans with how they need instant and continuous satisfaction.

 

[wazzu31]

Locked On Mariners did a short episode on their thoughts about Stanton. You will get the gist of it real quick...lol

I know I am in the minority but I still say any grade Stanton gets, Jerry gets. Let alone I really hated that rant from Colby

 

[NWinAZ]

I know I am in the minority but I still say any grade Stanton gets, Jerry gets. Let alone I really hated that rant from Colby

Colby is horrible. But with that said, he was right on Stanton. I also gave him an 'F'.

 

[ulmax]

Agreed .baseball should be over..in.october.
The if they.could.push it back a week..

I have listen to Colby..a lot.he is often.
Right..
Not always...but a knowlgable.baeball..
Guy...
I can..compromise..with..trades..rather..
Than...money..
So .money...is .less..needed...
But some stuff.cant be compromised..
So..that .mis where they need to.spend.
When.they can't get it done.with trade.

LHp..
And closer...the big .2..

 

[ulmax]

In.my.senario...you.could..skip..
Amed Rosario..and go trade..
But Rosario is good for me .2b/ss.
And
Garcia.backup..
And.
Vargas .gives a lot of options

 

[ulmax]

Ty and Colby hit in the money that will.
Be available ..I think..is prob 30 40 mil 50is stretching.it...
And mariners have other goals..like.
Making.the minores connect..and keeping the team..young...for know..
It will get older...on it's..own...
Like .young..
Too .ss..
Crawford .to...2b..for example..
Some things ya can't do...
1..is let Crawford..go.in free agents..
When it comes..

 

[ulmax]

Crawford is your other team leader.
Besides .Julio..
And I just .think..it would.be wrong to let him go..
Haniger .was a team leader ..as well..
It shakes a team..up..
When the leader leaves..

 

[ulmax]

Ya like it going smooth...it is not .
Going smooth .at.this time...
By anyone's .standards ..
So ..
The must..add ..to the team..
In ways that make it .better..
At..
1b..
2b..
Catcher..
Of .R/R..
Starting.pitcher..so woo.can bull pen.
A closer .for seawald..replace.

That is 6.at least..and getting.old.used.up
Vets just
Does not work .for this team..
Ya need to trade .for younger..guys..

Example..
Vargas .
Garcia .
Thomas .
And what does not work..fix at..
The deadline .

 

[ulmax]

A really good .example.of the mariners..
Is the phili.s..they struggled.wirh there.
Lineup for years..and Crawford is one of those guys .

 

[ulmax]

Also an example.of being to hasty...with prospects..
But dodgers..want..trade Vargas .so .
A utility .of sorts..
Freeman..and France .work nice for dodgers...
As..
Vargas will/or would for mariners

 

[ulmax]

This is what .most people.are missing.
Yes .they were 1 game out of the playoffs.
But .without there august..run .
They would have been.much..
Farther..back..

that in part was because.
Of the schedule..

And there pitching..was on the edge..
As far as starters go .they needed.
One more.
And barely..made it to the end..

That said...they need.to make.
Changes..but not how .the media..
Wants ..
Closer .to..what .I have shown..

#3Naylor..1b.
#4Jiminez..dh..
Both would be huge..for a team like the mariners..

 

[ulmax]

Ulmax fantasy..lineup..

1crawford..ss..L/L...rosario
2 Julio..cf....kelenic.
3.naylor..1b..L/L..Vargas/ Garcia.
4jimenez...dh/LF..canzone .

5raliegh..cat...carantini..
6.thomas..rf...natbats..28 hrs..canzone

7rojas..3b.L/L..Rosario.
8.amed.rosario..freecagent.2b/ss..garcia..L/L.vargas
9kelenic..LF.L/L..canzone.

Bench..
Carantini..
Garcia...
Canzone.
Vargas .

Amed Rosario..the only free agent..in line up..
Ohh and carantini..catch..so 2

 

[ulmax]

Amazingly..Rosario..is mets.through..
Cleveland .dodgers..so ok..
With Garcia as well...
Who's value .is ..zero..but not for me..
I'll trade trammel..

 

[ulmax]

The real thing is back up 3b is open..
Too..
Rosario.vargas.and Garcia..all.6-2.
And start...develop .right away

 

[ulmax]

And dont forget bliss and caballero.
At Tacoma .
Who can come up any time..
As well.
As Garcia..and Vargas can go down.
Any time .
And still have options.
And Marlowe.canzone..as well..

 

[ulmax]

New trade...
Mariners..
Vargas..18.2
Stone .13.3

Dodgers..
Topa...18.1
France..3.2.
Moore..8.1.
McCoughan..1.8..

A featured..trade..by..baseball.value.
Fan.slateman..
Natbats..
Berroa...3.9
Miller...who I would not give up..at all..20.2
His value keeps changing..know 26.
Berroa.for.gacia..ok..
And deloach .maybe

Mariners..
Thomas...of.17.5
Garcia...2b..7.9..
Thomas is a guy...would get..but not at the expence..of miller..
Also why I trade .for..stone..from dodgers.

 

[ulmax]

Really of coarse..I get .
Stone .to.trade.for..

Naylor .1b..Cleveland ..or 3 team it
Same same .
Naylor..1b./Of .L/L..
Vargas ..1b/2b/3b./of .
Both guys go a long way.for mariners
In fantasy..loooll9looo

 

[ulmax]

The story..is..Naylor..is.an mlb.1b..hits 300.
20 hrs...
Vargas just coming like kelenic..
Add Garcia .2b..only so far..
But could.1b./3b..
But Vargas would be here long..naylor.not as long..
And locklear.comming..so.so soon.

Both trades are good stuff..for mariners.

 

[ulmax]

Baseball reference ..
Miguel Vargas..
3b/2b/1b....23yo..6-3..205.
So.there is a Rojas..left Vargas right..
So he works..