James Gunn's DC Universe

[The Q]

I try to not bring in politics in entertainment forum. But this is not the same.

Damn!!! Can I say this. You guys think that comics not just marvel are getting too woke. But you also say this about all of entertainment industry. So let me ask you, is there any difference?? Can’t you just accept that we live in a more woke society right now. One day it will balance out. But are we really going to cry(general statement) every time something happens???

Why would I accept stupidity?

Consumers should push back so reality and common sense come back

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Why would I accept stupidity?

Consumers should push back so reality and common sense come back

Even when you know at least half of the country disagrees. And calls you racist for it??

 

[calsnowskier]

We are going to mock their stupidity since it’s costing them a ton of money


And they are the same


The suit is black, it doesn’t say the person wearing it has to be

If Thor can be a 5’1” human female or Ironman can be an 18 year old girl, Black Panther can be a McDonalds drive through employee from Poughkeepsie.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

We are going to mock their stupidity since it’s costing them a ton of money


And they are the same


The suit is black, it doesn’t say the person wearing it has to be

It’s not costing them money though. If it is it is very minimal. Marvel is still a huge thing. And will be. Its decline is not because it is being woke. It is because they are in rebuild mode now since the only avengers left are Falcon(now captain America) and the hulk. Hawkeye might be back for a little. But it is clear he is losing his spot soon.

 

[The Q]

It’s not costing them money though. If it is it is very minimal. Marvel is still a huge thing. And will be. Its decline is not because it is being woke. It is because they are in rebuild mode now since the only avengers left are Falcon(now captain America) and the hulk. Hawkeye might be back for a little. But it is clear he is losing his spot soon.

No. They’re comic sales are tanking because of all this and yes their box office is taking a hit.

But we’ll see if they can keep it going

 

[MilkSpiller22]

If Thor can be a 5’1” human female or Ironman can be an 18 year old girl, Black Panther can be a McDonalds drive through employee from Poughkeepsie.

Iron heart is not iron man. Different character totally.

And why not?? Armor machine is armor machine.

And Thor is magic. Anyone with thors powers and thors hammer can be Thor.

 

[The Q]

Even when you know at least half of the country disagrees. And calls you racist for it??

They have the right to be wrong

They also have the right fuck way the hell off

They’re also dumb enough to believe in an unarmed “insurrection”, that disqualifies their opinion from mattering

 

[The Q]

Iron heart is not iron man. Different character totally.

And why not?? Armor machine is armor machine.

And Thor is magic. Anyone with thors powers and thors hammer can be Thor.

With an iron man comic


They made it clear what it was

 

[calsnowskier]

It’s not costing them money though. If it is it is very minimal. Marvel is still a huge thing. And will be. Its decline is not because it is being woke. It is because they are in rebuild mode now since the only avengers left are Falcon(now captain America) and the hulk. Hawkeye might be back for a little. But it is clear he is losing his spot soon.

I think Q is more referencing the comics over the last 10-15 years. The comics industry (Marvel/DC, primarily) has been completely carried by the movies/tv/cartoons over the last decade+. Comic sales have plummeted. Tbh, there are likely multiple reasons for this, but getting overtly extreme political has to have been at least in part one of the reasons.

And if the stories are going to political on one side of the discussion, isn’t it natural for the consumors who fall on the other side of the discussion to voice their displeasure with that direction?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

With an iron man comic


They made it clear what it was

She may replace him as an armored hero. But the story is not the same.

 

[The Q]

I think Q is more referencing the comics over the last 10-15 years. The comics industry (Marvel/DC, primarily) has been completely carried by the movies/tv/cartoons over the last decade+. Comic sales have plummeted. Tbh, there are likely multiple reasons for this, but getting overtly extreme political has to have been at least in part one of the reasons.

And if the stories are going to political on one side of the discussion, isn’t it natural for the consumors who fall on the other side of the discussion to voice their displeasure with that direction?

I am worried they are going to ruin X-men 99 with this bullshit

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I think Q is more referencing the comics over the last 10-15 years. The comics industry (Marvel/DC, primarily) has been completely carried by the movies/tv/cartoons over the last decade+. Comic sales have plummeted. Tbh, there are likely multiple reasons for this, but getting overtly extreme political has to have been at least in part one of the reasons.

And if the stories are going to political on one side of the discussion, isn’t it natural for the consumors who fall on the other side of the discussion to voice their displeasure with that direction?

Not when the entire Hollywood is going that path. If you want to boycott Hollywood go at it. But let’s not pretend that comics is any different than the rest of our society is right now.

 

[The Q]

She may replace him as an armored hero. But the story is not the same.

Dude. They put her in the iron man comic.

Like, that’s the reality.

It was woke washing

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Not sure if in the comics iron man ever met riri. But if he did don’t you think he would be proud to mentor her??

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Dude. They put her in the iron man comic.

Like, that’s the reality.

It was woke washing

How so?? Again. Every superhero has villains and or sidekicks with similar powers. Why can’t a minority member have those powers?? Why can’t that character have their own backstory??

 

[The Q]

Not sure if in the comics iron man ever met riri. But if he did don’t you think he would be proud to mentor her??

there was no need to do what they did

you know it

I know it

they know it

These are the same geniuses who killed off Peter Parker for worthless SJW spidey (Miles Morales) and got Marvels top selling book cancelled (Ultimate spider-man)

 

[calsnowskier]

Not when the entire Hollywood is going that path. If you want to boycott Hollywood go at it. But let’s not pretend that comics is any different than the rest of our society is right now.

I don’t think anyone has ever claimed this is restricted to comic movies. It is Hollywood-wide. Heck, it is pop-culture-wide. I have theories as to why this is, and there is no smoke-filled room anywhere in my theory. It just is, based on evolution, essentially.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Nobody cried when Supergirl came into the superman universe and even changed the origin story to allow for it. Was it because she was white and beautiful. Talk about double standards!!!

 

[The Q]

I don’t think anyone has ever claimed this is restricted to comic movies. It is Hollywood-wide. Heck, it is pop-culture-wide. I have theories as to why this is, and there is no smoke-filled room anywhere in my theory. It just is, based on evolution, essentially.

De-evolution

This is a regression as a society

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I don’t think anyone has ever claimed this is restricted to comic movies. It is Hollywood-wide. Heck, it is pop-culture-wide. I have theories as to why this is, and there is no smoke-filled room anywhere in my theory. It just is, based on evolution, essentially.

But that’s my point. If it is pop culture wide. Then why do we cry about it in each genre??