Is Jalen Hurts already a top 15 QB in the NFL?

[ericd7633]

Hurts was essentially two different QB's in college IMO. I don't think it can be overlooked him spending a full year with Lincoln Riley at OU and what that did for him. He's been around some really great offensive minds in college, which probably has helped him early on so far. Going from Kiffin to Sark to Riley is great to put on your resume.

He's definitely developed as a throwing QB since his Bama days, where it was one quick read and then him taking off. But he can still improve upon that. I've been pleasantly surprised with him as a thrower. I wasn't all that high on him as a prospect coming in because I did think he was limited throwing it. He's shown better touch than I anticipated as well, and this is coming from someone who watched a lot of him in college.

He's still a work in progress, but the early returns are encouraging. For this particular Eagles team he makes more sense because of his mobility, awareness and pocket presence. 3 think Wentz lacks now, and this Eagles team needs because of the poor O-line play.

 

[ericd7633]

I had already said earlier I think in this thread. But I don’t think Hurts is a Lamar or Cam type

Probably in between them. He's not as fast as Lamar or as powerful as Cam, but he's more powerful than Lamar and slightly faster than Cam. As a thrower I think he can be as productive as them, as far as accuracy. He's completing 55% of his throws in 2 starts, which obviously needs to improve, but 3/4 of those were essentially hail mary type throws at the end of the Cardinals game.

 

[SteelersPride]

tua benched twice, not a word......wentz wants traded

 

[RememberTheKoy]

tua benched twice, not a word......wentz wants traded

Schefter was pressed on that and said he got his information not from Wentz or his Agent. He started to back track a lot on that report.

 

[Robotech]

If the 2020 draft could be redone, when would Burrow, Herbert, Tua, and Hurts be picked?

 

[RememberTheKoy]

If the 2020 draft could be redone, when would Burrow, Herbert, Tua, and Hurts be picked?

Do you factor the Burrow injury into it?

 

[Robotech]

Do you factor the Burrow injury into it?

Let's assume he's fully healthy next season.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Let's assume he's fully healthy next season.

1. Burrow
2. Herbert
3. Hurts
4. Tua


EDIT:

Assuming he is fully healthy next season doesn't erase the severe injury he got though and the possible implications going forward. That said, I would actually go:

1. Herbert
2. Burrow
3. Hurts
4. Tua

 

[Robotech]

1. Burrow
2. Herbert
3. Hurts
4. Tua


EDIT:

Assuming he is fully healthy next season doesn't erase the severe injury he got though and the possible implications going forward. That said, I would actually go:

1. Herbert
2. Burrow
3. Hurts
4. Tua

I would pick Herbert either way. The arm talent and deep ball accuracy is incredible. However, I think you're right that Cincy would still pick Burrow without the injury.

Hurts v. Tua is very tough because we've only seen 2 Hurts games, but that it's close is pretty incredible. NFL GMs might still feel safer picking Tua. Hurts' s throwing motion doesn't look fluid to me, but at least he seems a lot more willing to throw the ball, unlike Tua, and it seems like his arm is stronger than Tua's.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

He probably should but he won't.

His job was never in jeopardy. As long as he's buddy buddies with Jeffery, won't matter how many drafts he screws up.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm with you guys on Herbert. Definitely the real deal. Rocket launcher off that right shoulder and completely unfazed by the big stage. We will see if the Chargers bring in a new coach that doesn't try to lose games with stupid decisions.
Burrow is in that same catagory but we won't know 100 % until 2022. He will get back next season but let's face it. It takes some time to "really" get back, if you know what I mean. The kid has heart and moxie by the look of things and if Cincy can just be smart this one time, they could have a great franchise QB for a long time and actually have success. Not sure the Bungles don't fuck this up though. How in the holy hell does a modern NFL team not have an indoor practice facility? Seriously, smh.
Hurts is off to a good start. Happy for him as he really is a likeable kid. Has some of that "it" factor. Not afraid of the spotlight, willing to put in the work and just go play ball. Still a little raw in some ways but makes people better around him. As with the other teams, have to see what the organization does. Philly has a lot of underlying issues that need to be addressed.
Tua is a smart kid and likeable as hell. He is also on a team being built the right way that could contend for awhile. He has to get over his fear of pulling the trigger though or he will never develop fully. Don't know if you all saw last night after Fitz got them in position to win but he was teaching Tua on the sideline. I think he was telling him that sometimes you just gave to trust the receiver to get the ball and take your shot. Tua protects the ball to the point of losing games because plays aren't made. Tua also doesn't have pure arm strength as evident when he scrambles. Throws are light when off his legs. I do think with a bonafide #1 WR and some playmakers, he can be good enough to succeed.

 

[megalodon30]

So I’m guessing the breaks get pumped on Hurts after today.

 

[molsaniceman]

another thread that worked out well

 

[Dude]

Pats would trade Stidham for broken down Wentz and a 2-3 rounder

Brady is half ginger, so it might work ...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

So I’m guessing the breaks get pumped on Hurts after today.

you underestimate the ignorance in this one. He will probably double down like his teacher PE1 would have.

 

[Moab]

@RememberTheKoy I think just behind CJ Beathard is just about right, or at least better than your top 15 call...what do you think?

 

[sonnyblack65]

Brady is half ginger, so it might work ...

I wouldn't know, never saw Brady's pubic hair, is it red? How is he half ginger?

 

[RobToxin]

you underestimate the ignorance in this one. He will probably double down like his teacher PE1 would have.

Tomorrow he will want Wentz back in as starter.

 

[dbldwn711]

Have they put a statute outside the stadium of Hurts yet? It should look great next to the one of Foles. I bet Wentz will love it!

 

[Dude]

I wouldn't know, never saw Brady's pubic hair, is it red? How is he half ginger?

You’d have to check that with @DirtDirtDirt or one of the other nut suckers, just sayin...