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AFC
West
KC 13-4**
VEGAS 7-10
DENV 6-11
LAC 5-12

East
MIA 10-7**
BUFF 10-7*
NYJ 9-8*
NE 4-13

North
CINC 14-3**
BALT 9-8*
PITT 8-9
CLEV 5-12

South
HOUS 12-5**
INDY 8-9
TENN 7-9
JAX 5-12

NFC
 East
PHILLY 11-6**
DALL 11-6*
NYG 4-13
WASH 3-14

West
SF - 14-3**
LAR 12-5*
SEA 8-9
ARZ 5-12

North
DET 11-6**
GB 9-8
MINN 7-10
CHIC 6-11

South
ATL 13-4**
TB 10-7*
NO 8-9
CAR 4-13

AFC Title game
KC over Cincy

NFC Title game
Philly over SF

SUPER BOWL
KC over Philly

NFL MVP- Burrows
NFL OROY - B. Nix DEN

FANTASY-
Bust of the year - Kyren Williams... and not because Corrum is good.

Best QB Burrows
Best RB CMAC
Best WR Hill
Best TE LaPorta

Teams one mostly realistic prediction, one lil'bit crazy prediction

ARZ- Harrison Jr -1100 and 7. Kyler benched by week 12
SF - Kittle 10+ TD's. Aiyuk falls short of 1000 yards
SEA - K. Walker 1300+ and 8+. JSN outproduces Lockett
LAR - Stafford 4300, 35+. No RB eclipses 850yds rushing
ATL - Pitts 1000+ and 8. Bijan 2000+ yds from scrimmage
CAR - Theilen 100 receptions. B Young 3500 and 25+
NO - J. Williams has more TD rushing than Kamara. D. Carr benched for final 3 games to evaluate Rattler
TB - Baker Mayfield 30+ TD. Evans has his first sub 1000yd season, still has 10 TD.
CHIC - Cole Kmett 8+tds, leading the team. Herbert scores more fpts than Swift
GB. - Jacobs 1750 yards from scrimmage. R. Doubs 1200 and 10
MIN - Jefferson 1500 and 10. A Jones plays 17 games :)
DET - LaPorta leads team in receptions. Gibbs 1500yds rushing
Philly - Barkley 2000 yards from scrimmage. AJ Brown 1700 and 10
DAL - Lamb and Cook both 1300+. Zeke, double digit TD's rushing
NYG - Nabors leads team with less than 1000yds. Drew Lock starts more games than Jones
WASH- BRob outscores Ekeler. Marriota plays in more games than Daniels.

DEN - McLaughlin leads RB's in fpts. Dulcich actually plays 17 games
LV - Z. White 1200yds rush. D. Adams 1500 and 10
LAC - L. McConkey leads team in receptions. Dobbins 1200 yds rush- yes he stays upright, that's the crazy part
KC - JuJu 80+ receptions. No receiver, including Kelce, hits 1k yds for second straight year
Buff - Josh Allen leads all rushing yds and tds. Kincaid 100 receptions
MIA- Hill 3rd straight year 1700 yds. Mostert still leads yards rushing
NYJ- Rodgers 2500 and less than 20. Thai Stick leads team to playoff win
NE - Stevenson 1700 yards from scrimmage. D. Douglas 100+ receptions.
Balt - Andrews and Likely both have more receptions than Flowers. Derrick Henry 18+ TDs
Pitt - Fields starts more games than RW. Anything noteworthy, from any of them, seems like a crazy prediction to me
Clev - D. Foreman 8 tds rush. Watson 3500 30
Cincy - Chase 1750yds. Burrows 4000 and 40.
Houston- Stroud 3000 30. Tank Dell leads Nico and Diggs
Indy - J. Taylor 1400 yds rush. Richardson plays more than 10 games? And if he does, the WR's all suck? Tough one, sorry
Jax- Lawrence 4k again, but 30+tds finally. Etienne has more receiving scores than rushing
TENN- Spears out rushes Pollard. Both Hopkins and Ridley have 1k+, but less than 6 scores each
 
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You didn't think I'd sent you you all the pleasure of my yearly BS, did you??

Here we go-

AFC
West
KC 13-4**
VEGAS 7-10
DENV 6-11
LAC 5-12

East
MIA 10-7**
BUFF 10-7*
NYJ 9-8*
NE 4-13

North
CINC 14-3**
BALT 9-8*
PITT 8-9
CLEV 5-12

South
HOUS 12-5**
INDY 8-9
TENN 7-9
JAX 5-12

NFC
 East
PHILLY 11-6**
DALL 11-6*
NYG 4-13
WASH 3-14

West
SF - 14-3**
LAR 12-5*
SEA 8-9
ARZ 5-12

North
DET 11-6**
GB 9-8
MINN 7-10
CHIC 6-11

South
ATL 13-4**
TB 10-7*
NO 8-9
CAR 4-13

AFC Title game
KC over Cincy

NFC Title game
Philly over SF

SUPER BOWL
KC over Philly

NFL MVP- Burrows
NFL OROY - B. Nix DEN

FANTASY-
Bust of the year - Kyren Williams... and not because Corrum is good.

Best QB Burrows
Best RB CMAC
Best WR Hill
Best TE LaPorta

Teams one mostly realistic prediction, one lil'bit crazy prediction

ARZ- Harrison Jr -1100 and 7. Kyler benched by week 12
SF - Kittle 10+ TD's. Aiyuk falls short of 1000 yards
SEA - K. Walker 1300+ and 8+. JSN outproduces Lockett
LAR - Stafford 4300, 35+. No RB eclipses 850yds rushing
ATL - Pitts 1000+ and 8. Bijan 2000+ yds from scrimmage
CAR - Theilen 100 receptions. B Young 3500 and 25+
NO - J. Williams has more TD rushing than Kamara. D. Carr benched for final 3 games to evaluate Rattler
TB - Baker Mayfield 30+ TD. Evans has his first sub 1000yd season, still has 10 TD.
CHIC - Cole Kmett 8+tds, leading the team. Herbert scores more fpts than Swift
GB. - Jacobs 1750 yards from scrimmage. R. Doubs 1200 and 10
MIN - Jefferson 1500 and 10. A Jones plays 17 games :)
DET - LaPorta leads team in receptions. Gibbs 1500yds rushing
Philly - Barkley 2000 yards from scrimmage. AJ Brown 1700 and 10
DAL - Lamb and Cook both 1300+. Zeke, double digit TD's rushing
NYG - Nabors leads team with less than 1000yds. Drew Lock starts more games than Jones
WASH- BRob outscores Ekeler. Marriota plays in more games than Daniels.

DEN - McLaughlin leads RB's in fpts. Dulcich actually plays 17 games
LV - Z. White 1200yds rush. D. Adams 1500 and 10
LAC - L. McConkey leads team in receptions. Dobbins 1200 yds rush- yes he stays upright, that's the crazy part
KC - JuJu 80+ receptions. No receiver, including Kelce, hits 1k yds for second straight year
Buff - Josh Allen leads all rushing yds and tds. Kincaid 100 receptions
MIA- Hill 3rd straight year 1700 yds. Mostert still leads yards rushing
NYJ- Rodgers 2500 and less than 20. Thai Stick leads team to playoff win
NE - Stevenson 1700 yards from scrimmage. D. Douglas 100+ receptions.
Balt - Andrews and Likely both have more receptions than Flowers. Derrick Henry 18+ TDs
Pitt - Fields starts more games than RW. Anything noteworthy, from any of them, seems like a crazy prediction to me
Clev - D. Foreman 8 tds rush. Watson 3500 30
Cincy - Chase 1750yds. Burrows 4000 and 40.
Houston- Stroud 3000 30. Tank Dell leads Nico and Diggs
Indy - J. Taylor 1400 yds rush. Richardson plays more than 10 games? And if he does, the WR's all suck? Tough one, sorry
Jax- Lawrence 4k again, but 30+tds finally. Etienne has more receiving scores than rushing
TENN- Spears out rushes Pollard. Both Hopkins and Ridley have 1k+, but less than 6 scores each
Great read but im here also to say the annual oopsie 268 wins 273 losses hmmmmm

sorry Treff numbers i cant help it

however as i said above really entertaining read well done
 

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Ooh, you had me until I came to the Theilen and Bryce Young predictions!
 

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Great read but im here also to say the annual oopsie 268 wins 273 losses hmmmmm

sorry Treff numbers i cant help it

however as i said above really entertaining read well done
Only you give two shats. If it was 272 and 272, I'd be getting paid
 

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Outstanding effort. Since you did all the hard work I can just cherry-pick a few disagreements.

I think you're selling the Steelers short - Pickett is not an NFL QB and somehow they got it done. Tomlin will get a 10th win out of this squad.
Rashee Rice gets to 1000 yards easily.
Man... 18 TDs for Henry... love the guy so it would be cool but... oof.
 

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You didn't think I'd sent you you all the pleasure of my yearly BS, did you??

Here we go-

AFC
West
KC 13-4**
VEGAS 7-10
DENV 6-11
LAC 5-12

East
MIA 10-7**
BUFF 10-7*
NYJ 9-8*
NE 4-13

North
CINC 14-3**
BALT 9-8*
PITT 8-9
CLEV 5-12

South
HOUS 12-5**
INDY 8-9
TENN 7-9
JAX 5-12

NFC
 East
PHILLY 11-6**
DALL 11-6*
NYG 4-13
WASH 3-14

West
SF - 14-3**
LAR 12-5*
SEA 8-9
ARZ 5-12

North
DET 11-6**
GB 9-8
MINN 7-10
CHIC 6-11

South
ATL 13-4**
TB 10-7*
NO 8-9
CAR 4-13

AFC Title game
KC over Cincy

NFC Title game
Philly over SF

SUPER BOWL
KC over Philly

NFL MVP- Burrows
NFL OROY - B. Nix DEN

FANTASY-
Bust of the year - Kyren Williams... and not because Corrum is good.

Best QB Burrows
Best RB CMAC
Best WR Hill
Best TE LaPorta

Teams one mostly realistic prediction, one lil'bit crazy prediction

ARZ- Harrison Jr -1100 and 7. Kyler benched by week 12
SF - Kittle 10+ TD's. Aiyuk falls short of 1000 yards
SEA - K. Walker 1300+ and 8+. JSN outproduces Lockett
LAR - Stafford 4300, 35+. No RB eclipses 850yds rushing
ATL - Pitts 1000+ and 8. Bijan 2000+ yds from scrimmage
CAR - Theilen 100 receptions. B Young 3500 and 25+
NO - J. Williams has more TD rushing than Kamara. D. Carr benched for final 3 games to evaluate Rattler
TB - Baker Mayfield 30+ TD. Evans has his first sub 1000yd season, still has 10 TD.
CHIC - Cole Kmett 8+tds, leading the team. Herbert scores more fpts than Swift
GB. - Jacobs 1750 yards from scrimmage. R. Doubs 1200 and 10
MIN - Jefferson 1500 and 10. A Jones plays 17 games :)
DET - LaPorta leads team in receptions. Gibbs 1500yds rushing
Philly - Barkley 2000 yards from scrimmage. AJ Brown 1700 and 10
DAL - Lamb and Cook both 1300+. Zeke, double digit TD's rushing
NYG - Nabors leads team with less than 1000yds. Drew Lock starts more games than Jones
WASH- BRob outscores Ekeler. Marriota plays in more games than Daniels.

DEN - McLaughlin leads RB's in fpts. Dulcich actually plays 17 games
LV - Z. White 1200yds rush. D. Adams 1500 and 10
LAC - L. McConkey leads team in receptions. Dobbins 1200 yds rush- yes he stays upright, that's the crazy part
KC - JuJu 80+ receptions. No receiver, including Kelce, hits 1k yds for second straight year
Buff - Josh Allen leads all rushing yds and tds. Kincaid 100 receptions
MIA- Hill 3rd straight year 1700 yds. Mostert still leads yards rushing
NYJ- Rodgers 2500 and less than 20. Thai Stick leads team to playoff win
NE - Stevenson 1700 yards from scrimmage. D. Douglas 100+ receptions.
Balt - Andrews and Likely both have more receptions than Flowers. Derrick Henry 18+ TDs
Pitt - Fields starts more games than RW. Anything noteworthy, from any of them, seems like a crazy prediction to me
Clev - D. Foreman 8 tds rush. Watson 3500 30
Cincy - Chase 1750yds. Burrows 4000 and 40.
Houston- Stroud 3000 30. Tank Dell leads Nico and Diggs
Indy - J. Taylor 1400 yds rush. Richardson plays more than 10 games? And if he does, the WR's all suck? Tough one, sorry
Jax- Lawrence 4k again, but 30+tds finally. Etienne has more receiving scores than rushing
TENN- Spears out rushes Pollard. Both Hopkins and Ridley have 1k+, but less than 6 scores each
Gimme the over on the entire NFCNorth.

ARSB to lead the Lions in targets and receptions. Monty to lead the team in rushing with 1178 yards and Gibbs to lead in yards from scrimmage with 1583.

MVP Jordan Love

Ravens to win the SB

And with you on Kyren. But the best Corum is gonna give you is prolly right now. Not saying that will be good in comparison to his peers. Just saying it. He’s not young and is far from still physically developing. His iron may not get hotter than it is.
 

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Ooh, you had me until I came to the Theilen and Bryce Young predictions!
I kinda like the Panthers predictions tbh.

Especially Young’s.

That offense was so bad last year. Got so few first downs and Theilen put up the numbers. I think he does it again if he’s healthy.
 

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Don’t care for the Marriotta prediction.


But I get it. Daniels is a strong bean.

Man do I ever look forward to watching him until he breaks though. Smart back up situation for Washington with these two.
 

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Pitt - Arthur Smith gives Najee an insane +25 touch/gm workload and targets Pickens 160+ just to fuck with everyone that bitched about him not using his star players enough in ATL
 

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Outstanding effort. Since you did all the hard work I can just cherry-pick a few disagreements.

I think you're selling the Steelers short - Pickett is not an NFL QB and somehow they got it done. Tomlin will get a 10th win out of this squad.
Rashee Rice gets to 1000 yards easily.
Man... 18 TDs for Henry... love the guy so it would be cool but... oof.
I guess my train of thought was Balt and Cincy I have doing so well, just tough to not get beaten up. Btw, I never said RW nor Fields SURVIVE long.. maybe #3 gets more starts than the both of em, eh? Maybe? ;)
 

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I think Cinci is in the wrong division to go 14-3. I wouldn't be shocked if they went something like 12-5 overall but 2-4 in the AFCN because teams will just run over their defense.
 

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I think Cinci is in the wrong division to go 14-3. I wouldn't be shocked if they went something like 12-5 overall but 2-4 in the AFCN because teams will just run over their defense.
Id have to dig my grid back out, but I think I've got em splitting with BALT, sweeping Clev, and can't recall the 2 Steelers..I think I split em? Can't recall. Loss to the Chiefs in KC. But their schedule sets up nicely. Philly is at home, so I gave em that one, I don't trust my Cowboys, so I gave em that one. But the Giants, Washington, Chargers, Vegas, Denver, Carolina, NE?? They'd have to really screw up to not win those (assuming a healthy Burrows, and active Chase/Higgins)
 

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Id have to dig my grid back out, but I think I've got em splitting with BALT, sweeping Clev, and can't recall the 2 Steelers..I think I split em? Can't recall. Loss to the Chiefs in KC. But their schedule sets up nicely. Philly is at home, so I gave em that one, I don't trust my Cowboys, so I gave em that one. But the Giants, Washington, Chargers, Vegas, Denver, Carolina, NE?? They'd have to really screw up to not win those (assuming a healthy Burrows, and active Chase/Higgins)
Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and a fairly alright oline. Its what fantasy players live for, right?

I guess the big variable there is Cleveland. They're built to beat the Bengals if they get anything from their QB spot. If. Chubb should be back for the matchup probably.

Jets and Browns in general are such massive wildcards based on that Qb spot. In general I dont like betting on teams like that when you have built teams like the Jaguars with a QB in place who are projected to do poorly.
 

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Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and a fairly alright oline. Its what fantasy players live for, right?

I guess the big variable there is Cleveland. They're built to beat the Bengals if they get anything from their QB spot. If. Chubb should be back for the matchup probably.

Jets and Browns in general are such massive wildcards based on that Qb spot. In general I dont like betting on teams like that when you have built teams like the Jaguars with a QB in place who are projected to do poorly.
Yes D. Watson, and the lack of Chubb, factored heavily in my projections/ predictions. Cleveland was 5-1 under Watson, officially, but even the slightest in depth look reveals, one win was credited to Watson despite him exiting 1 for 5 with an INT, and two others with sub. 60%, sub 250yds, 1:1 ratio, and sub 80 rating- suggesting they probably won in spite of Watson. Just dont trust him.

And yeah, I don't trust old man Rodgers being much of a savior for the Jets either. 41 now, hasnt REALLY played in almost 2 years, and wasn't exactly lighting it up as a 39 year old for an 8-9 GB team. He probably the biggest reason I'm bullish on Breece Hall...bullish in that I don't construction Breece in the same class as Bijan/CMAC, behind that I'll gladly take him.

Regardless, it's an inexact science, based almost entirely in my personal opinion of stuff. Luke I said to @Barilko , if I was actually any good at it, I'd be getting paid
 

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if I was actually any good at it, I'd be getting paid
That suggests that the ones who get paid for it are better at it. I don’t think so. They’re just better at getting in front of the people who pay… and at grinding out click-bait content day in, day out.
 

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That suggests that the ones who get paid for it are better at it. I don’t think so. They’re just better at getting in front of the people who pay… and at grinding out click-bait content day in, day out.
Well ok than, agreed :)
 

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If you really get down to it, while FantasyPros is a fun tool, it's no more accurate than stuff a bunch of us have said on here.

Maybe even less. ;)
Well, 'back in the day' I had enough time and energy to put in that sort of effort in an attempt to rival the 'paid experts'. Now I just do what I can to keep the debates lively with y'all
 

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If you really get down to it, while FantasyPros is a fun tool, it's no more accurate than stuff a bunch of us have said on here.

Maybe even less. ;)
Just commented on another thread.... why is Josh Allen the consensus QB1 on FantasyPros? He has no one of note to throw to and he has a terrible schedule. Even FantasyPros gives his schedule 1 star. Does anyone remember how awful he was before Diggs arrived?

Experts are chickens. They have no guts and go with whats popular or trending. And then we should all be impressed when the top, most accurate expert was 59% correct.
:mad2:
 
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