Game #8 Los Angeles Chargers vs NE Patriots 10/29/2017

[TP76]

No Gilmore, no *gimped* Hightower... no problem.

No Gostkowski, no problem. (just theorizing) - he's starting to get on my last nerve.

 

[redseat]

Yes that is what was said, this may get interesting

Wonder if BB cuts him

 

[YankeeRebel]

Wonder if BB cuts him

There is a story there for sure I just don't think we are privy to it.

 

[redseat]

There is a story there for sure I just don't think we are privy to it.

Nor will we most likely

 

[YankeeRebel]

Nor will we most likely

Agreed. But if he walked out on his team that won't bode well for him

 

[ohiopatsfan]

Besides giving up that long run, the defense was also noticeable for its lack of a serious pass rush. Rivers is a fairly immobile QB, so I expected Flowers and Wise to be in his grill all day. I think BB will at least be kicking the tires on several trade possibilities before 4:00 PM Tuesday. Once again for the offense, the subject of poor red zone conversions is a major topic. Also, Gostkowski is still showing signs of kicking problems. I expect BB to at least evaluate alternative kickers just in case. Good teams can win ugly but doing it into the playoffs is playing with fire.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Agreed. But if he walked out on his team that won't bode well for him

The reports were they sent him home not that he walked out, could be as simple as still showing concussion symptoms and the doctor telling him to go home and rest.

Cutting him is not an option, the cap hit would be savage.

 

[SDGuy73]

The reports were they sent him home not that he walked out, could be as simple as still showing concussion symptoms and the doctor telling him to go home and rest.

Cutting him is not an option, the cap hit would be savage.

Correct. $40M guaranteed.

 

[YankeeRebel]

The reports were they sent him home not that he walked out, could be as simple as still showing concussion symptoms and the doctor telling him to go home and rest.

Cutting him is not an option, the cap hit would be savage.

Ohh I was not suggesting he would be cut simply that it's worthy of keeping an eye. I can't remember any team sending a guy home from a concussion two weeks after it happened

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Besides giving up that long run, the defense was also noticeable for its lack of a serious pass rush. Rivers is a fairly immobile QB, so I expected Flowers and Wise to be in his grill all day. I think BB will at least be kicking the tires on several trade possibilities before 4:00 PM Tuesday. Once again for the offense, the subject of poor red zone conversions is a major topic. Also, Gostkowski is still showing signs of kicking problems. I expect BB to at least evaluate alternative kickers just in case. Good teams can win ugly but doing it into the playoffs is playing with fire.

That long run would not have been a TD if Butler had gone for the tackle instead of the punch out.
Just my 2 cents. A tackle at the 7 yard line would have given the defense a better chance.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Ohh I was not suggesting he would be cut simply that it's worthy of keeping an eye. I can't remember any team sending a guy home from a concussion two weeks after it happened

The suggestion was made by another poster prior to you.

 

[BigKen]

I think that Belichick was testing Gilmore yesterday to see how he reacted and whether or not he is a "Me" or a "Team" guy. That question was pretty much answered. The Patriots are paying him his guarantee this year and next and they're on the hook for $8M next year. It may be worth signing MB and just eating SG's contract or keep him here and make him play ST. If he refuses his contract is null and void.

 

[YankeeRebel]

The suggestion was made by another poster prior to you.

I am aware of that but when you quoted my post it seemed you were suggesting I made that proposal.

No biggie either way,.

 

[BigKen]

For everyone's information, Stephon Gilmore's contract is detailed below.......

Contract Terms: 5 yr(s) / $65,000,000 Signing Bonus $18,000,000 Average Salary$13,000,000 GTD at Sign:$31,000,000 Total GTD:$40,000,000 Free Agent:2022 / UFA
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $65,000,000
Signing Bonus $18,000,000
Average Salary $13,000,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $31,000,000
Free Agent: 2022 / UFA
Bonus Breakdown Cap Details Cash Details
Year Age Base Salary Signing Roster Cap Hit Dead Cap Yearly Cash
2017

27 $4,500,000 $3,600,000 $468,750 $8,568,750 $22,500,000 $22,968,750($22,968,750)
Pre-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $22,500,0002017 Cap Savings: $-13,931,250 Pre-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $18,000,0002017 Cap Savings: $-9,431,250 Post-6/1 Release2017 Dead Cap: $8,100,0002018 Dead Cap: $14,400,0002017 Cap Savings: $468,750 Post-6/1 Trade2017 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002018 Dead Cap: $14,400,0002017 Cap Savings: $4,968,750
2018

28 $8,500,000 $3,600,000 $500,000 $12,600,000 $22,900,000 $9,000,000($31,968,750)
Pre-6/1 Release2018 Dead Cap: $22,900,0002018 Cap Savings: $-10,300,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2018 Dead Cap: $14,400,0002018 Cap Savings: $-1,800,000 Post-6/1 Release2018 Dead Cap: $12,100,0002019 Dead Cap: $10,800,0002018 Cap Savings: $500,000 Post-6/1 Trade2018 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002019 Dead Cap: $10,800,0002018 Cap Savings: $9,000,000
2019

29 $9,500,000 $3,600,000 $500,000 $13,600,000 $10,800,000 $10,000,000($41,968,750)
Pre-6/1 Release2019 Dead Cap: $10,800,0002019 Cap Savings: $2,800,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2019 Dead Cap: $10,800,0002019 Cap Savings: $2,800,000 Post-6/1 Release2019 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002020 Dead Cap: $7,200,0002019 Cap Savings: $10,000,000 Post-6/1 Trade2019 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002020 Dead Cap: $7,200,0002019 Cap Savings: $10,000,000
Potential Out: 2020, 3 yr, $41,968,750; $7,200,000 dead cap
2020

30 $10,500,000 $3,600,000 $500,000 $14,600,000 $7,200,000 $11,000,000($52,968,750)
Pre-6/1 Release2020 Dead Cap: $7,200,0002020 Cap Savings: $7,400,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2020 Dead Cap: $7,200,0002020 Cap Savings: $7,400,000 Post-6/1 Release2020 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002020 Cap Savings: $11,000,000 Post-6/1 Trade2020 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002020 Cap Savings: $11,000,000
2021

31 $11,500,000 $3,600,000 $500,000 $15,600,000 $3,600,000 $12,000,000($64,968,750)
Pre-6/1 Release2021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002021 Cap Savings: $12,000,000 Pre-6/1 Trade2021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002021 Cap Savings: $12,000,000 Post-6/1 Release2021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002022 Dead Cap: $02021 Cap Savings: $12,000,000 Post-6/1 Trade2021 Dead Cap: $3,600,0002022 Dead Cap: $02021 Cap Savings: $12,000,000
2022

32 UFA
Contract Notes:

• $31M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2017 salary + 2018 salary)
• $9M of 2019 salary fully guarantees in March 2019
• Annual Per Game Active Bonus: $31,250 ($500,000, 15 LTBE in 2017)

 

[SDGuy73]

That long run would not have been a TD if Butler had gone for the tackle instead of the punch out.
Just my 2 cents. A tackle at the 7 yard line would have given the defense a better chance.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Gillmore didn't walk out. It's policy that guys who are inactive go home. Gillmore might have thought he was playing and got upset when he found out BB wanted to sit again. It's a long season and contract for him. IMO, he is coming back at the right time, because I think this defense (esp the secondary) has gone as long as they can without Gillmore and Rowe (who might never be back). Badman was not very good yesterday.

That long run was on Marsh. Once again he thinks he is is Sea and didn't do his job to contain the edge. He came way inside, and then got blown up on the block. The lack of pass rush was pathetic yesterday, and when they decided to blitz, Rivers shit his paints. Harris was very good yesterday.