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Bucks are looking to dump Snell's and Ilyasova's contracts at draft night.

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The Bucks have 62M in cap space available right now and it rises to 80M if they can dumb Snell's and Ilyasova's salary... What'syou problem with this?

...all the rest you mention, are also explained if you bother to look... JRSmith's contract only has (excellent) value for some (few) teams... for the Cavs it only has value if used by a third team...

Why do you keep writing dumb instead of dump?

JR Smith's contract has value right now for any team that wants cap space for this free agent period. If they hold onto him then he will be an expiring for next year and have value then.

Just because Ilyasova and Snell balance out a trade for Smith doesn't mean that the Cavs have any reason to make that trade. They would be better off keeping Smith and looking for a better offer than to dump him just to take on 2 multiyear contracts and get essentially a 2nd round pick.

As for the 80 million in cap space, if they can get rid of those 2 and they renounce the rights to all of their players then they would have 80 million in cap space. Brogdan has a cap hold of 3 million right but he is almost certainly going to get at least 15 per this off season. Mirotic is gonna cost money. As is Lopez. And Hill.
 

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I'm not really sure what the Cavs could realistically get for Smith. That 30th pick has value but not if they are going to be stuck with 2 bad contracts for a couple of years.
What are you saying now? Ilyasova is expiring! His third year is not guaranteed and Snell is just perfect for the quality of their roster... If they get a better 3&D, Snell will still be valuable conming from bench... He ain't Osman!
 

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What are you saying now? Ilyasova is expiring! His third year is not guaranteed and Snell is just perfect for the quality of their roster... If they get a better 3&D, Snell will still be valuable conming from bench... He ain't Osman!

You are right.

He is worse.

Osman is young and Cleveland wants to develop him a bit.

Snell has 0 upside.
 

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What are you saying now? Ilyasova is expiring! His third year is not guaranteed and Snell is just perfect for the quality of their roster... If they get a better 3&D, Snell will still be valuable conming from bench... He ain't Osman!

You're right about Ilyasova.

Your point about Snell makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. So because they aren't a very good team they should be thrilled to bring in a not very good player getting paid too much money?

The Cavs are almost certainly a tank team next year and planning to be one. However in 2020 they will have a ton of cap space and can really plan to rebuild the team. It would be foolish for them to take on any salary for that season just because they can.
 

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Why do you keep writing dumb instead of dump?

JR Smith's contract has value right now for any team that wants cap space for this free agent period. If they hold onto him then he will be an expiring for next year and have value then.

Just because Ilyasova and Snell balance out a trade for Smith doesn't mean that the Cavs have any reason to make that trade. They would be better off keeping Smith and looking for a better offer than to dump him just to take on 2 multiyear contracts and get essentially a 2nd round pick.

As for the 80 million in cap space, if they can get rid of those 2 and they renounce the rights to all of their players then they would have 80 million in cap space. Brogdan has a cap hold of 3 million right but he is almost certainly going to get at least 15 per this off season. Mirotic is gonna cost money. As is Lopez. And Hill.
Smith has NO (zero, null, 0000) value after the 2nd of July... It would take the Cavs offering JR Smith and 2x1st of their own to the Bucks as to take back Snell after July the 2nd...
 

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What are you saying now?

That Giannis is the best Bucks player or all time? No that's not it. Oh yeah. Kawhi will considering teaming up w/ the Greek Freak. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it yet.

You can read the entire article on the onion.com (sports section).
 

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You are right.

He is worse.

Osman is young and Cleveland wants to develop him a bit.

Snell has 0 upside.
Oh... you are after to break the world record for stupidity... no?

Then take Osman to the Lakers stupid! They'll be happy to hire a taxi and get him delivered to LA... The kid would be benched even in China!
 

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Oh... you are after to break the world record for stupidity... no?

Then take Osman to the Lakers stupid! They'll be happy to hire a taxi and get him delivered to LA... The kid would be benched even in China!

Again.

You can't call anybody stupid.

You have not been right about anything yet.

ANd most of your takes have been so spectacularly wrong that they provide comic relief for the rest of us.

Osman isn't anything special. But lol if you think Cleveland would rather have Snell.
 

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That Giannis is the best Bucks player or all time? No that's not it. Oh yeah. Kawhi will considering teaming up w/ the Greek Freak. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it yet.

You can read the entire article on the onion.com (sports section).
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Again.

You can't call anybody stupid.

You have not been right about anything yet.

ANd most of your takes have been so spectacularly wrong that they provide comic relief for the rest of us.

Osman isn't anything special. But lol if you think Cleveland would rather have Snell.
I only call stupid the ones proven stupid here... like the STUPID one proves if he is to compare Osman with... Snell!

Take that back or you are just... STUPID!
 

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I only call stupid the ones proven stupid here... like the STUPID one proves if he is to compare Osman with... Snell!

Take that back or you are just... STUPID!

Ok.

Well,

You have proven yourself to be stupid time and again.

So I take it as a compliment that a stupid person calls me stupid. That is like some kind of double negative.

And Osman is 23. There is some realistic possibility he continues to improve. What is your excuse for Snell?
 

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Ok.

Well,

You have proven yourself to be stupid time and again.

So I take it as a compliment that a stupid person calls me stupid. That is like some kind of double negative.

And Osman is 23. There is some realistic possibility he continues to improve. What is your excuse for Snell?

lol is there a full moon out today or what...?
 

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Smith has NO (zero, null, 0000) value after the 2nd of July... It would take the Cavs offering JR Smith and 2x1st of their own to the Bucks as to take back Snell after July the 2nd...

Smith has no value to the Bucks after July 2nd. That isn't the same thing as having no value.
 

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I only call stupid the ones proven stupid here... like the STUPID one proves if he is to compare Osman with... Snell!

Take that back or you are just... STUPID!
Why don't you take a timeout and get your emotions in check? You just argue with anyone that doesn't agree with you. Calling folks stupid is childish in my opinion.
 
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