Bengals Practice Squad

[alf8478]

Facts huh?

AJ Green Targeted 576 times with 329 catches for a percent of 57% and 7 fumbles with Andy Dalton throwing him the ball and leading him into danger over the middle.

Dez Bryant targeted 611 times with 381 catches for a percent of 62% and 6 fumbles with Tony Romo throwing him the ball.

Damarius Thomas targeted 577 times with 351 catches for a percent of 61% and 6 fumbles with a couple questionable QB's throwing him the ball and Peyton Manning.

Everyone has dropped balls and that one AJ had in preseason for the INT was horrible. But most the time Dalton is throwing to Green and Green has to make a spectacular play on the ball to even drop it.

Green is not much different Bryant in my opinion as both make up for their drops with ridiculous catches that should never have been made. Difference is, Bryant has Romo and Green has Dalton.

Fact is, Green is not much different than his counterparts with inferior QB throwing him the ball. Many analysts have said that you give Green a QB like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Ryan, ect. and he would be the best WR in the NFL.

So because AJ Green has Andy Dalton throwing to him, that's why he holds the ball like a loaf of bread?

I hate Andy Dalton too, but its comical the extent to which you blame every other player's shortcomings/faults on him.

 

[Tubbs1518]

So because AJ Green has Andy Dalton throwing to him, that's why he holds the ball like a loaf of bread?

I hate Andy Dalton too, but its comical the extent to which you blame every other player's shortcomings/faults on him.

I kind of long for the days that Crash blamed Daltons shortcomings on everyone else.

 

[alf8478]

You guys keep bringing up Calvin Johnson, Dez, DeMarius, Julio Jones. They all have better quarterbacks and what have any of them won? You are actually making the "dont give AJ big money" people's arguments.

You win with/pay big $ QB, LT, pass rush and CB.

 

[Tubbs1518]

You guys keep bringing up Calvin Johnson, Dez, DeMarius, Julio Jones. They all have better quarterbacks and what have any of them won? You are actually making the "dont give AJ big money" people's arguments.

You win with/pay big $ QB, LT, pass rush and CB.

With the money we should have free after this year if we don't sign AJ, sign a big time C, run stuffer, LB. Then draft a WR. Big time players are coming out of the 2nd and 3rd round a lot lately. I'd honestly trade AJ for a haul now.

 

[cincygrad]

Neat.

So we drag contract issues into week 1 which just causes a needless distraction when it could have been taken care of last month. Good job guys!

 

[cincygrad]

Crash has done a bit of a 180 on Dalton...... It's refreshing to see him on the 'hate-dalton' bandwagon.

Does the ginger have any fans left?

 

[alf8478]

With the money we should have free after this year if we don't sign AJ, sign a big time C, run stuffer, LB. Then draft a WR. Big time players are coming out of the 2nd and 3rd round a lot lately. I'd honestly trade AJ for a haul now.

I would trade AJ for Alex Mack right now

 

[cincygrad]

Interesting info about AJ and an extension..... League insiders say a deal is far apart. Team insiders (as reported by Coley Harvey) say a deal is close.

Wonder if the team is floating misinformation to a beat writer? Or an agent is floating misinformation to media?

 

[cincygrad]

Who has the most leverage here?

The agent/player can hold them hostage one more day knowing the team desperately wants to put part of that bonus on 2015.

The team can play chicken knowing that the agent wants to get paid and the player wants to avoid the inevitable franchise tag game.

 

[futballiscool]

Only 1 out of 32 teams wins the SB, so when you create a "SB or bust" way of evaluating a position none of them will seem important other than maybe QB.

Most of the elite teams in the NFL have a top flight pass catcher at either WR or TE. If they can keep Green at the market value set by Thomas, Julio Jones and Dez I'm in favor of it.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Only 1 out of 32 teams wins the SB, so when you create a "SB or bust" way of evaluating a position none of them will seem important other than maybe QB.

Most of the elite teams in the NFL have a top flight pass catcher at either WR or TE. If they can keep Green at the market value set by Thomas, Julio Jones and Dez I'm in favor of it.

Most of the top flight teams have a great QB. Without that you need an elite D and run game. Wasting money on a WR is pointless at that point.

 

[futballiscool]

Most of the top flight teams have a great QB. Without that you need an elite D and run game. Wasting money on a WR is pointless at that point.

AJ Green turned 27 this past summer. Letting him walk away because the defense and/or QB might not be SB caliber is pointless. He still has his best football in front of him and he can contribute to this team winning games

 

[Tubbs1518]

AJ Green turned 27 this past summer. Letting him walk away because the defense and/or QB might not be SB caliber is pointless. He still has his best football in front of him and he can contribute to this team winning games

WR isn't important enough to warrant that money

 

[futballiscool]

WR isn't important enough to warrant that money

I disagree. A WR of Green's caliber and age hasn't hit the open market in a long time. He'll draw a ton of interest if that happens. If the Bengals don't want to pay him Julio/Dez money, another team will and I say he'll be worth it.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I disagree. A WR of Green's caliber and age hasn't hit the open market in a long time. He'll draw a ton of interest if that happens. If the Bengals don't want to pay him Julio/Dez money, another team will and I say he'll be worth it.

Let them. WR is the least important position on a team. I'd take that money and sign some players at positions of big need or trade him.

 

[futballiscool]

Let them. WR is the least important position on a team. I'd take that money and sign some players at positions of big need or trade him.

11 WRs have gone in the 1st rd over the last two drafts. That's strange GMs are investing 1st rd picks in the least important position on a team. Also the other teams with an elite WR all locked them up to long term deals.

Green's an elite player and a difference maker. It doesn't make your team better letting a player like that who's just starting their prime walk away for nothing. As far as a trade that's always on the table depending on the compensation

 

[Tubbs1518]

11 WRs have gone in the 1st rd over the last two drafts. That's strange GMs are investing 1st rd picks in the least important position on a team. Also the other teams with an elite WR all locked them up to long term deals.

Green's an elite player and a difference maker. It doesn't make your team better letting a player like that who's just starting their prime walk away for nothing. As far as a trade that's always on the table depending on the compensation

I'm fine with taking one in the first, you aren't paying them a ton. Baltimore let their number 1 leave and drafted a new one, Chicago traded their number 1 away and drafted a new one. They want to get rid of Green and draft one, fine, but you don't pay a WR that kind of money.

 

[cincygrad]

I'm fine with taking one in the first, you aren't paying them a ton. Baltimore let their number 1 leave and drafted a new one, Chicago traded their number 1 away and drafted a new one. They want to get rid of Green and draft one, fine, but you don't pay a WR that kind of money.

I think this is in line with how a lot of clubs have been thinking about free agents.... They're too expensive. Draft picks are cheap and you get them for 4 years (5 years for a 1st rounder). If your roster is mostly made up of young players, it makes it easy to pay big money at qb and line..... I'd wager that lineman age better than skill positions.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I think this is in line with how a lot of clubs have been thinking about free agents.... They're too expensive. Draft picks are cheap and you get them for 4 years (5 years for a 1st rounder). If your roster is mostly made up of young players, it makes it easy to pay big money at qb and line..... I'd wager that lineman age better than skill positions.

Oh absolutely. If they want to cut Dalton and draft a QB I'll pay Green because then we don't have that big QB pay day and we can afford Green. Otherwise trade Green or let him walk and draft a new guy. Wrs are coming into the league more ready than any other position

 

[futballiscool]

I'm fine with taking one in the first, you aren't paying them a ton. Baltimore let their number 1 leave and drafted a new one, Chicago traded their number 1 away and drafted a new one. They want to get rid of Green and draft one, fine, but you don't pay a WR that kind of money.

Torrey Smith and Brandon Marshall weren't the number true number one on their teams last season. Also to compare either of those players to AJ Green is a huge stretch. Their production can be replaced by a high pick in a year or two. AJ's can't be replaced. Also teams in general don't use 1st rd picks to replace players at the "least important position on the team" that they lost in FA. They use it on players they sees as key building blocks in their team's future