AFCN Hate Guide

[Superbelt]

The agenda is you can’t just look at stats. The pressure rate/win rate is much higher for Garrett and Parsons. Garrett with WAY less snaps and an injury. Most of Watt’s pressures came while he was unblocked.

Watt shouldn’t be at +1000 though. That doesn’t look right. Should be right around Parsons

Hendrickson has better win rates than Watt.

Snap counts 901-Watt. 812-Garrett. 3 more sacks doesn’t mean shit. Tackles and pass deflections? Well he is a pass rusher but he is a LB too so it only makes sense.

Watt gets the title for “clean sack master”

Watt doesn't just pass rush either. And he still has more sacks than Garrett.

Garrett has a higher 'win-rate' but he still has less sacks and only one more pressure (77-76) with many more pass rush attempts.

So really who has the real higher 'win-rate' when the other guy is rushing less but beats you in sacks and has one less pressure than you?

What is Garrett really doing when he beats his block in that other 14.8%? Because when Watt beats his block, he's making plays much more often.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

This argument is like discussing which 100 dollar bill spends best.

 

[Superbelt]

This argument is like discussing which 100 dollar bill spends best.

Sure! But the argument to give it to Garrett seems to only be based on it being his turn.

Even if other guys had objectively better seasons, we need to focus on a subjective pass rush win-rate quasi-stat alone for him to justify it. Other defensive players had an objectively better season. And not just Watt, but Parsons and Crosby.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Sure! But the argument to give it to Garrett seems to only be based on it being his turn.

Even if other guys had objectively better seasons, we need to focus on a subjective pass rush win-rate quasi-stat alone for him to justify it. Other defensive players had an objectively better season. And not just Watt, but Parsons and Crosby.

I think it's more of how good the Browns D is. When you consider the Browns have the most turnovers in the league its remarkable what they've done. But it makes no difference to me if Myles gets it or not.

 

[eaglesnut]

I think it's more of how good the Browns D is. When you consider the Browns have the most turnovers in the league its remarkable what they've done. But it makes no difference to me if Myles gets it or not.

This.

What is Garrett really doing when he beats his block in that other 14.8%? Because when Watt beats his block, he's making plays much more often.

On those other 14.8% he's forcing bad passes, silly.

 

[Superbelt]

This.


On those other 14.8% he's forcing bad passes, silly.

How? He only has one more pressure than TJ Watt. So how is he forcing bad passes without a pressure?

You are double dipping for him when those 'forcing bad passes' is already accounted for in the 'pressure' category.

 

[eaglesnut]

How? He only has one more pressure than TJ Watt. So how is he forcing bad passes without a pressure?

By menacing QBs. Making them shit and pee themselves even when he's not close enough for some nerd dork to count it as a pressure.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

This argument is like discussing which 100 dollar bill spends best.

Gotta admit, if you forced me to take Watt or Garrett on my team, sure I'd scream bloody murder, but I suppose I'd reluctantly take one of them.
~~Said no NFL fan ever

 

[Battlelyon]

 

[PDay8810]

this is where I get off the train. Why this guy felt the need to bring Higgins up reeks of look at me. As a Cowboy fan, makes me happy to have the lesser receiver. Higgins most likely thinks he can't get away fast enough.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

having to root for Baltimore so Pittsburgh doesn't get in

 

[PDay8810]

having to root for Baltimore so Pittsburgh doesn't get in

as one who spent a few years hanging around eastern Ohio townships Most understandable.

RIP Dr. Ryan.
Those were the good old days for the region.

 

[Superbelt]

Playoff club, no zebracakes.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I dont really care for his attitude. Some red flags there to me.

 

[blue_suns]

Congrats AFC North, we all weren't that terrible this year

 

[cincygrad]

I dont really care for his attitude. Some red flags there to me.

I think people take Chase too seriously. I don't think he even believes half the shit he says to the media. He frequently trolls the media out of boredom. On the field the guy doesn't take plays off, doesn't throw up his arms and have a temper tantrum when not getting the ball, and blocks his ass off for running backs. Aren't these the things that we are really worried about? Anyone have a good example of Chase ever acting like a diva on the football field?

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

 

[dare2be]

I think people take Chase too seriously. I don't think he even believes half the shit he says to the media. He frequently trolls the media out of boredom. On the field the guy doesn't take plays off, doesn't throw up his arms and have a temper tantrum when not getting the ball, and blocks his ass off for running backs. Aren't these the things that we are really worried about? Anyone have a good example of Chase ever acting like a diva on the football field?

Im not sure about the upfront money comment, but I'll bet he was trying to be funny about Tee Higgins.

 

[cincygrad]

Im not sure about the upfront money comment, but I'll bet he was trying to be funny about Tee Higgins.

I wouldn't be shocked. Half the time he makes comments, Tee is standing just outside of camera laughing at him.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]