A.L. Central Discussion 2016

[navamind]

Moss is a good platoon bat, but he reminds me a lot of Brian Daubach (similar sluggers who started hitting in their late 20's). Hopefully he'll age better than Daubach.

 

[broncosmitty]

Moss is a good platoon bat, but he reminds me a lot of Brian Daubach (similar sluggers who started hitting in their late 20's). Hopefully he'll age better than Daubach.

.223 with a .302 versus righties in 2016.

.232/.289 against lefties.

25 of his 67 hits against righties were homers. He's pretty much unusuable against left handed pitching since he doesn't hit for power against them. (He hit .191 total in the second half last year.)

 

[broncosmitty]

I see that projected Tiger batting orders often have JD Martinez batting second. Seems stupid considering his high K rate, but who else do you put at second spot? Iglesias? Nanook? Upton would have psychological problems there.

Didn't Upton start the season in the two hole last year?

When he was horrible.

 

[Howie115]

Victor getting hurt could be a blessing. JD and Upton might be able to hit a double with the cleanup man on base that way. (One of them would be hitting cleanup without VMart, but you know what I mean.)

V-mart was one of the most useless cleanup hitters in baseball last year. Supposedly he played most of the year with a hernia. Don't know how severe it was. He drove in 86 runs, but had a ton of RBI opportunities. His LOB numbers had to be through the roof. And for a guy who rarely struck out more than 60 times in a season for much of his career, he had 90 whiffs last season, 66 from the left side.

 

[broncosmitty]

V-mart was one of the most useless cleanup hitters in baseball last year. Supposedly he played most of the year with a hernia. Don't know how severe it was. He drove in 86 runs, but had a ton of RBI opportunities. His LOB numbers had to be through the roof. And for a guy who rarely struck out more than 60 times in a season for much of his career, he had 90 whiffs last season, 66 from the left side.

He should hit in front of McCann or after Avila. Depending on the pitcher.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Are Royals fans honestly happy for Brandon Moss?


He's awful imo.

It's logical in the sense he consistently hits RHP at an above average or better clip. Cuthbert with a 119 wRC+ against LHP offers the shorthand of the platoon. It's certainly cost effective but good is another matter.

 

[broncosmitty]

It's logical in the sense he consistently hits RHP at an above average or better clip. Cuthbert with a 119 wRC+ against LHP offers the shorthand of the platoon. It's certainly cost effective but good is another matter.

Above average?

He barely hits his weight.

 

[broncosmitty]

The ALC is the toughest place for long balls. So I'm not expecting any power numbers to transfer if that where the above average is coming from.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Above average?

He barely hits his weight.

Power and walks tends to offset his garbage BA. Still managed a 114 wRC+ vs RHP and a 1.4 WAR. Not good- but not sub replacement value in a hard platoon either.

 

[ChiSoxFan]

CF is the key for every team. So says the nut licker.
Indians got bent over in WS.
They don't want no more of post season play. No heart.
Tigers have heart. Look like the central champs for 2017

Especially now that they have Avila back, eh?

 

[broncosmitty]

Power and walks tends to offset his garbage BA. Still managed a 114 wRC+ vs RHP and a 1.4 WAR. Not good- but not sub replacement value in a hard platoon either.

He doesn't draw many walks though. (34 walks to over a hundred Ks vs righties last year.)

 

[Iffster]

Above average?

He barely hits his weight.

At $3.75mil this year....and figuring in a +HEART%*....I think the Moss signing (for 2017) is a pretty good deal. In 2018?

*According to Douggraphs website

 

[broncosmitty]

I'm really just tired of Iffy V Doug on here.


So if there's any other baseball topic besides Moss, I'm game for it.

 

[Iffster]

Especially now that they have Avila back, eh?

You are assuming that doug even knows who Avila Jr is and/or that he will play for Detroit. Those kind of facts only confuse the main issues of HEART and SHARPNESS.

 

[Iffster]

I'm really just tired of Iffy V Doug on here.


So if there's any other baseball topic besides Moss, I'm game for it.

How about...is their any aspect where Detroit leads Cleveland? Outfield? Infield? Starting Pitching? Defense?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

He doesn't draw many walks though. (34 walks to over a hundred Ks vs righties last year.)

Meh. 3 of the last 4 years he has had a BB% over 9 and has had an above average walk rate in all of them. ISOs usually over 200 as well. Not surprising he was an Athletic.

 

[broncosmitty]

Meh. 3 of the last 4 years he has had a BB% over 9 and has had an above average walk rate in all of them. ISOs usually over 200 as well. Not surprising he was an Athletic.

Walks are relative to Ks to me.

 

[broncosmitty]

How about...is their any aspect where Detroit leads Cleveland? Outfield? Infield? Starting Pitching? Defense?

Prolly infield.

Unless Encarnacion has a career type year.

Starting pitching is pretty similar. Studs at the top, hopes and dreams filling it out.

Huge discrepancy in the bullpen. YUGE!

Outfield depends on who Detroits Centerfielder is and if Brantley is healthy enough to be himself.

Where is Jose Ramirez playing this year? I like that kid. Third?

 

[Iffster]

Prolly infield.

Unless Encarnacion has a career type year.

Starting pitching is pretty similar. Studs at the top, hopes and dreams filling it out.

Huge discrepancy in the bullpen. YUGE!

Outfield depends on who Detroits Centerfielder is and if Brantley is healthy enough to be himself.

Where is Jose Ramirez playing this year? I like that kid. Third?

Detroit might be close in a few areas (infield), but IMO, the one thing that keeps Detroit in 2nd is its starting pitching. Cleveland might have the slight advantage there too, but Detroit is ahead of everyone else in the division. Shows you how weak the AL Central could be if you are counting on a rotation, that might include Anibal Sanchez, as a strong point.

 

[broncosmitty]

Detroit might be close in a few areas (infield), but IMO, the one thing that keeps Detroit in 2nd is its starting pitching. Cleveland might have the slight advantage there too, but Detroit is ahead of everyone else in the division. Shows you how weak the AL Central could be if you are counting on a rotation, that might include Anibal Sanchez, as a strong point.

Sanchez as the long man and then using him
For a spot start when he's been locating well isn't a bad option.

It's just crazyfuckin expensive. Lol. Id like to see Boyd make 20+ starts as the fifth starter.

Kipnis-Kinsler isn't even a debate worth having to me. I don't want to see either cut down on. (Strong point division wide at second. Represent!). Like, if somebody feels real
Strongly that Kipnis is the best, that's cool with me.

Lord knows Id prefer Lindor.