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2025 Rosterbation

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Part 4:

Fitzgerald could move across the bag to cover second. Brett Wisely and Casey Schmitt will be around for depth. Wilmer Flores will be around as a bench bat as he’s sure to trigger his $3.5MM player option after a brutal season that saw him finish on the injured list due to a knee injury.

In the outfield, Jung Hoo Lee should be back in center field after an injury-marred debut. He only got into 37 games before he hurt himself crashing into the wall, ultimately requiring season-ending labrum surgery. Heliot Ramos earned himself a job next year by hitting 22 homers in 2024.

They will have to make a call on Mike Yastrzemski, who has been a solid player but his age and salary have been climbing to the point where he’s not a lock to be back. He’s now 34 years old and MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects him for a $9.5MM salary in 2025.

It’s not an outrageous overpay, as guys like Joc Pederson, J.D. Martinez, Kevin Kiermaier, Harrison Bader and Jason Heyward got $9-13MM on one-year deals next winter, but the Giants could consider a non-tender or a trade if they want to keep that money free for other pursuits. Guys like Luis Matos, Jerar Encarnación or Grant McCray could fill in or the club could look to external additions.

Juan Soto is the top prize on the outfield market and perhaps there will be some desire to get involved with the club’s aforementioned track record with big-name free agents. But even if they can’t get Soto out of New York, free agents like Anthony Santander, Teoscar Hernández and Tyler O’Neill could get some consideration.

Behind the plate, Patrick Bailey had another year of elite defense and passable offense, so he’ll undoubtedly be back next year. The question will be who is backing him up. The Giants signed Tom Murphy to a two-year deal last offseason but he only played 13 games in 2024 due to a left knee sprain. Back in August, he told Shayna Rubin of the San Francisco Chronicle that he was still in pain and didn’t really know what was next for him.

Given that uncertainty, adding another option would make sense. Blake Sabol is also on the 40-man but has options and could be kept as a depth piece in Triple-A. If the Giants look to free agency, guys like Kyle Higashioka, Danny Jansen, Carson Kelly and Gary Sánchez will be the top of the market and none of them should require a massive deal to be signed.

The bullpen should also be a focus, as the club’s relievers were middle-of-the-pack in 2024. Collectively, they had a 3.96 ERA that was 15th in the majors. Camilo Doval struggled badly enough in the closer’s role that he was sent down to the minors for a spell, with Ryan Walker talking over the closer job. Doval returned for 16 appearances down the stretch but posted a 5.40 ERA with a 14.7% walk rate after his return.

He will be arbitration-eligible for the first time this winter with a projected salary of $4.6MM. Given his past success and two extra years of control, he will probably be tendered a contract but it will depend on how much faith the Giants have in getting him back on track. Even if they’re hesitant, it’s likely that Doval will have some interest on the trade market.

Regardless of how that plays out, some investment in the bullpen is sensible and there are many ways that can go. The relief market will be highlighted by guys like Jeff Hoffman and Tanner Scott but there are dozens of options.

Ultimately, the Giants are a black box until we get more information on how Posey intends to operate, but the franchise has presumably made this big change for a reason. Perhaps the Chapman deal is a sign that other such splashy signings are over the horizon. Time will tell. Even if that does come to pass, the Giants will have to spend their money wisely. The division is very strong, with the Dodgers an annual powerhouse and the Padres and Diamondbacks frequent upstarts. Hitting on some free agents could help the Giants gain ground, if they pick the right ones.
 

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From MLBTR (behind paywall):

A big shakeup is in process for the front office in San Francisco. The Farhan Zaidi era came to an end last month and now Giants legend Buster Posey will be calling the shots as president of baseball operations. Since Posey has so little experience in running baseball operations, it’s hard to know exactly what to expect, but there are some signs that the club will move from a measured approach to a bolder focus on acquiring marquee players.

Guaranteed Contracts

Option Decisions

  • LHP Robbie Ray can opt out of final two years and $50MM remaining on contract
  • LHP Blake Snell can opt out of final one year and $30MM remaining on contract
  • IF Wilmer Flores has $3.5MM player option, Giants have $8.5MM club option if he declines
Total 2025 commitments (assuming Snell opts out while Ray and Flores stay): $110.75MM
Total future commitments (assuming Snell opts out while Ray and Flores stay) : $439.75MM

Arbitration-Eligible Players (projections via Matt Swartz)

Non-tender candidates: Yastrzemski, Doval

Free Agents

Nice breakdown. If only we had someone here who would track these kinds of things…

 

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I found this blurb from the MLBTR article quite interesting:
"The rotation will likely be an area that Posey is looking to invest in, particularly if Snell is gone, which seems likely to be the case. He is sure to opt out and return to the open market after his dominant finish to the season, looking to get the nine-figure deal he didn’t find last winter. The Giants could be the one to give him that deal, as was the case with Chapman, but there may be some bad blood between Snell and the club. Per Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic, it seems that it wasn’t well received when Snell decided not to pitch in the club’s penultimate game, preferring to protect his health as opposed to throwing for an eliminated team. Baggarly suggests a reunion is unlikely because of how this played out."
 

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Looking at the 40 man roster, heading into the offseason, I think that there are a number of candidates for being dfa'd in the next month:
Kai-Wei Teng
Blake Sabol
Ethan Small
David Villar
Austin Warren
Wade Meckler
Keaton Winn
 

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Looking at the 40 man roster, heading into the offseason, I think that there are a number of candidates for being dfa'd in the next month:
Kai-Wei Teng
Blake Sabol
Ethan Small
David Villar
Austin Warren
Wade Meckler
Keaton Winn
Villar is out of options, so if they don’t see him making the opening day roster, they might as well trade him or cut him loose.

While I acknowledge he is not a difference maker, he kinda reminds me of Adam Duvall. I fear that he will be a masher for the next team he plays for because we never gave him a chance to show here.
 

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I found this blurb from the MLBTR article quite interesting:
"The rotation will likely be an area that Posey is looking to invest in, particularly if Snell is gone, which seems likely to be the case. He is sure to opt out and return to the open market after his dominant finish to the season, looking to get the nine-figure deal he didn’t find last winter. The Giants could be the one to give him that deal, as was the case with Chapman, but there may be some bad blood between Snell and the club. Per Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic, it seems that it wasn’t well received when Snell decided not to pitch in the club’s penultimate game, preferring to protect his health as opposed to throwing for an eliminated team. Baggarly suggests a reunion is unlikely because of how this played out."
Seems like a weird hill to die on.
 

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Villar is out of options, so if they don’t see him making the opening day roster, they might as well trade him or cut him loose.

While I acknowledge he is not a difference maker, he kinda reminds me of Adam Duvall. I fear that he will be a masher for the next team he plays for because we never gave him a chance to show here.
Considering he was a bit of an afterthought when injuries hit, he seems buried in the depth charts. I guess it all depends on how much the new regime likes him. I do think he would do well with an extended look in the big leagues so I hope the Giants can at least trade him, rather than just letting him walk. Either way, I'd be sad to see him go. I was rooting for him to play regularly on the big league squad. I think he would be a fine 1st baseman for the team.
 

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Team. Also, not saying that report is wrong, but I haven’t seen that from anyone besides JT Snow.
It cites an article by Baggarly on the Atlantic (of which I don't have a subscription, so I don't know what all he wrote and if he cited any sources).
 

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Both are approx the same age, so that is a non-factor.

Kim is approximately league average with the bat. He is an 8 hitter on a good hitting team. He is an elite defensive SS. Not Craw-level, but certainly a GG contender. He recently went under the knife on his throwing shoulder, so that MAY affect his defensive prowess moving forward. He is good friends with Lee, and he has been linked to us even before we signed Lee. I suspect he can be ours if we choose to so sign him, and I suspect it would be at a somewhat reasonable rate.

Adames is a solid bat. He is a #3 hitting on a moderate hitting team. I am unfamiliar with his defensive capability. he has been rumored as a target for the Giants in Giants rumor circles, but I don’t know of any real in we would have in signing him. He would likely cost top-of-the-market dollars to lock down.
 

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Both are approx the same age, so that is a non-factor.

Kim is approximately league average with the bat. He is an 8 hitter on a good hitting team. He is an elite defensive SS. Not Craw-level, but certainly a GG contender. He recently went under the knife on his throwing shoulder, so that MAY affect his defensive prowess moving forward. He is good friends with Lee, and he has been linked to us even before we signed Lee. I suspect he can be ours if we choose to so sign him, and I suspect it would be at a somewhat reasonable rate.

Adames is a solid bat. He is a #3 hitting on a moderate hitting team. I am unfamiliar with his defensive capability. he has been rumored as a target for the Giants in Giants rumor circles, but I don’t know of any real in we would have in signing him. He would likely cost top-of-the-market dollars to lock down.
Rumors are that the Brewers will offer a QO to Adames. If the Giants sign Adames and either Burnes or Fried, we'll be looking at a very similar 2025 draft as what we saw in 2024, no picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
 

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Rumors are that the Brewers will offer a QO to Adames. If the Giants sign Adames and either Burnes or Fried, we'll be looking at a very similar 2025 draft as what we saw in 2024, no picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
We will likely be restructuring our scouting department, so taking a break year might not be the absolute worst idea…
 

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So if Flores opts in, we can see how he does in spring training before we decide to keep him or release him, correct?
 

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So if Flores opts in, we can see how he does in spring training before we decide to keep him or release him, correct?
Correct. But he would still be occupying a roster spot, and at only 3M, that makes him a somewhat easy DFA.
 
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