2020 Rosterbation

[LHG]

Sounds like the Padres are looking to trade Wil Meyers at all costs, including giving up prospect talent to get rid of him.

Thoughts?

The ol' "pick up a mediocre player so he won't harm you any longer" trick, eh?
(must be read in the voice of Don Adams. If you have no clue, watch YouTube videos of Maxwell Smart).

 

[LHG]

Zito.

2 championships in his tenure absolutely equates to “working out”. And he was vital in ‘12.

So tempted to facepalm this one.

 

[filosofy29]

To be fair, when was the last time any team laid out big bucks for a SP and it worked out well?

Scherzer, Max. But point taken.

 

[filosofy29]

Zito.

2 championships in his tenure absolutely equates to “working out”. And he was vital in ‘12.

He was vital in one of three championships. Obviously, looking back, you don’t trade (3) birds in hand for birds in a bush. Perhaps though, we have to account for what might have been 4 in 6 or a longer window of championships.

not saying you’re wrong, just presenting one side of an argument.

 

[Mays-Fan]

Zito.

2 championships in his tenure absolutely equates to “working out”. And he was vital in ‘12.

Sometimes you can shove-call on the turn hoping to hit a gunshot on the river, too. And 9% of the time you do. And 91% of the time you don't.

And that's the Barry Zito story.

 

[filosofy29]

The ol' "pick up a mediocre player so he won't harm you any longer" trick, eh?
(must be read in the voice of Don Adams. If you have no clue, watch YouTube videos of Maxwell Smart).

Mark Portugal redux?!?!

I don’t think this makes sense unless it’s a bad for bad. Like a Belt or Longoria for Myers swap. Obviously, with Machado, Longo doesn’t make sense. So then you look to Samrdzija and Cueto.....Cueto maybe, but would rather keep Samardzija for trade deadline assuming he pitches similar to this year.

I guess long term, Myers seems like a no because we’re not two years away...and if he hits like he usually does in SF, he’ll be too expensive after 2020/21.

 

[LHG]

Mark Portugal redux?!?!

I don’t think this makes sense unless it’s a bad for bad. Like a Belt or Longoria for Myers swap. Obviously, with Machado, Longo doesn’t make sense. So then you look to Samrdzija and Cueto.....Cueto maybe, but would rather keep Samardzija for trade deadline assuming he pitches similar to this year.

I guess long term, Myers seems like a no because we’re not two years away...and if he hits like he usually does in SF, he’ll be too expensive after 2020/21.

I was thinking of that exact name when I posted but wasn't sure anyone would get it.

The problem with a bad contract for bad contract swap is that most of the guys that Myers would be swapped for would probably outperform him. The shine on Myers is long gone. He's turning 30 late next year and has yet to put in a good, full season in the big leagues (2016 and 2017 are arguable whether they were actually good or high end mediocre seasons). He's an injury risk and he under performs. I doubt the Padres would add prospects and take on another bad contract, so, no, I don't think that would be worth it.

 

[LHG]

 

[LHG]

Latest On Giants' Pursuit Of Nicholas Castellanos

Interesting line from this article: "There are some hints the team could even be involved quietly in the Gerrit Cole market, though it’s still unclear whether the Giants would really make a shocking run at the market’s biggest prize."

 

[calsnowskier]

On the surface, I REALLY like this trade. We are in a position to buy prospects, so why not do it? I have no idea if Wilson is any good, but he was a first rounder in this most recent draft. Awesome!

 

[LHG]

On the surface, I REALLY like this trade. We are in a position to buy prospects, so why not do it? I have no idea if Wilson is any good, but he was a first rounder in this most recent draft. Awesome!

I'm not familiar with Wilson, so I'll let others weigh in on him. But where does Cozart fit in? Does he get dfa'd? Will he replace Longoria, Dubon or Belt?

 

[calsnowskier]

Kevin Gausman Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

1 year, 9M

Um, why??

 

[LHG]

Kevin Gausman Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

1 year, 9M

Um, why??

Edit: Why give a rookie or 2nd year guy a spot in the rotation to produce mediocre results when you can sign a vet to a 9 million deal for the same results? Brian Sabean must be proud. Oh course, Curt Young can work his pitching magic to get Gausman back to . . wait, never mind.

 

[calsnowskier]

This deal just eats into our ability to buy more prospects

 

[tzill]

Scherzer, Max. But point taken.

That's fair. And maybe you could argue Verlander, but my point generally stands.

 

[tzill]

Kevin Gausman Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

1 year, 9M

Um, why??

Pooh Dramapantz II?

Kevin Gascan?

 

[tzill]

If the Pads are willing to give up Patino or Trammel to get us to eat the Myers contract, would that be enough?


I'm assuming they would never part with Gore.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Zito.

2 championships in his tenure absolutely equates to “working out”. And he was vital in ‘12.

3 years of total suckitude, and several years of crap (#4 or #5 performance for #1 A+ pay), and some quality starts does NOT equate to “working out”. However, he did get a few of those quality starts at key moments.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Sounds like the Padres are looking to trade Wil Meyers at all costs, including giving up prospect talent to get rid of him.

Thoughts?

First, it's Wil Myers.

And no thanks. He's due to earn $20M for the next 3 years. The Pads can keep him.

 

[calsnowskier]

As mentioned, there are rumors the Giants are talking to the Pads for Myers and the Sox for Price in more prospect-purchase trades.