2014 offseason thread

[Ray_Dogg]

@mattbarrows: Tall order: #49ers interested in #Vikings FA cornerback Chris Cook ... http://t.co/RvDODC1X6F

 

[Ray_Dogg]

Ok so with the additions of several players I have a new guestimate Top 51 cap space # of $2,573,039 until June 2nd. June 2nd we know it will increase $6.6M with the Rogers release. Sucks we can't have that space now.

$645,000 Will Tukuafu - third year vet min
$824,933 Jonathan Martin
$855,000 Eric Wright - 7th year vet min, could be more when details are released
$2,011,587 Blaine Gabbert - Word is a restructure will lower this number, details later
$5.25M Antoine Bethea - will know more when details released, just an avg of 4 for $21M at this point
$955,000 Phil Dawson - 10+ year vet min, will know if he got more when details released
$1.431 Demarcus Dobbs - tender amount

 

[michaelwarner]

Ok so with the additions of several players I have a new guestimate Top 51 cap space # of $2,573,039 until June 2nd. June 2nd we know it will increase $6.6M with the Rogers release. Sucks we can't have that space now.

$645,000 Will Tukuafu - third year vet min
$824,933 Jonathan Martin
$855,000 Eric Wright - 7th year vet min, could be more when details are released
$2,011,587 Blaine Gabbert - Word is a restructure will lower this number, details later
$5.25M Antoine Bethea - will know more when details released, just an avg of 4 for $21M at this point
$955,000 Phil Dawson - 10+ year vet min, will know if he got more when details released
$1.431 Demarcus Dobbs - tender amount

So Rogers' cap space basically will cover our Rookie Contracts.

That doesn't really leave us much to any more damage.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

So Rogers' cap space basically will cover our Rookie Contracts.

That doesn't really leave us much to any more damage.

I wanna say a rookie class takes up around $4.5Mish. Hopefully Bethea has a lower first year hit and Gabbs can come down $1M. We shall see.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

A little more on the Bethea deal, still differing numbers on total and no first year cap hit but the gtd money is said to be $6.5 million.
Scout.com: Whitner Out, Bethea In

 

[AU_Fever]

A little more on the Bethea deal, still differing numbers on total and no first year cap hit but the gtd money is said to be $6.5 million.
Scout.com: Whitner Out, Bethea In

That's a lot less than the $9M that Whiter got from the Browns. Anxious to see what Bethea brings to the defense.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

That's a lot less than the $9M that Whiter got from the Browns. Anxious to see what Bethea brings to the defense.

That article says Whitner got $13M gtd.

 

[AU_Fever]

That article says Whitner got $13M gtd.

My bad Ray. Thanks for the clarification. That's even better. How does Bethea compare to Whitner? Is he better in coverage than Whitner? Thanks in advance for your response.

 

[MHSL82]

All these sources report things when they have no real clue (just a number within a range told to them). Not saying they should or have any way to have a clue, but they're all reporting it when they don't know. At least we get a ballpark estimate.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

Bethea contract details.
4 years $21M, $5M signing bonus
2014 $1.25M base, $400K roster bonus, $100k workout bonus
2015 $3M base, $400k roster, $100k workout bonus
2016 $4M base, $400k roster, $100k workout
2017 $5.25M base, $400k roster, $100k workout
With another $500k possible in incentives from 2015-2017
cap hits:
2014 - $3M
2015 - $4.75M
2016 - $5.75M
2017 - $7M

 

[Ray_Dogg]

$4,823,039 is our current cap space until Rogers opens us up $6.6M more on June 2nd.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Bethea contract details.
4 years $21M, $5M signing bonus
2014 $1.25M base, $400K roster bonus, $100k workout bonus
2015 $3M base, $400k roster, $100k workout bonus
2016 $4M base, $400k roster, $100k workout
2017 $5.25M base, $400k roster, $100k workout
With another $500k possible in incentives from 2015-2017
cap hits:
2014 - $3M
2015 - $4.75M
2016 - $5.75M
2017 - $7M

I'd think we'll look to move on after 2015.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

I'd think we'll look to move on after 2015.

Exactly. We still gotta draft a safety.

 

[-AC-]

Revis to the Pats, 1 year 12 million...

 

[NinerSickness]

Worst

Offseason

Ever.

So

Far.

...Not really, but close.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

Wait for the draft. We pull a 2012 then I'll let you jump.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

It is frustrating to see Revis sign on a one-year deal with a competitor. That would have been awfully nice for the Niners. Might have been enough to give them the edge in the NFC West, even without the draft.

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

It is frustrating to see Revis sign on a one-year deal with a competitor. That would have been awfully nice for the Niners. Might have been enough to give them the edge in the NFC West, even without the draft.

Very frustrating. I'm surprised he settled for a 1 yr deal. Wouldve been perfect for us.

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

Worst

Offseason

Ever.

So

Far.

...Not really, but close.

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

So whats the dead money going to look like if we cut Bethea after two years? is it just (6.5 million guaranteed divided by 4 yrs) x the years left? So 2 years would be 3.25 million in dead money?