2014 Offseason Plans Thread

[Justinkm83]

Did anyone else read the article on Brett Nicholas? Someone to keep an eye on in ST

Rangers prospect Brett Nicholas went 3-for-4 with two homers to earn MVP honors in the Arizona Fall League Fall Stars Game on Saturday. Nicholas played first base for the West Division in a 9-2 victory. Nicholas, a sixth-round pick in the 2010 draft, hit .289 with 21 homers and 91 RBIs for Double-A Frisco in 2013. He was drafted as a catcher, but played more at first base. He said he's going to the Dominican to catch fulltime after the Fall League is over.

"It's something that I believe if I can do, it will make me a little better of a prospect for the Rangers and maybe a little more valuable for them," Nicholas told MLB.com. "Hopefully, some day I can break that 25-man roster."

 

[Justinkm83]

St. Louis is actively trying to trade for a SS now. They have too many starters and are going to be shopping Miller and Lynn. So that trade proposal we have talked about with Miller+ for Profar sounds damn tempting. Give them a SS and Texas can pick up that 5th starter and a bat.

I doubt they would give us Adams and Miller. Would you trade Profar for just a pitcher? I wouldn't. Profar needs to be traded for an everyday player.

 

[BLeslie59Rangers]

I doubt they would give us Adams and Miller. Would you trade Profar for just a pitcher? I wouldn't. Profar needs to be traded for an everyday player.

I threw this out there the other day...it's controversial, we keep Profar, trade Andrus to the Cards for Adams and Miller. Yeh, this is risky...but if Profar is as good as advertised, then this is a win- win....

 

[RevSader]

I doubt they would give us Adams and Miller. Would you trade Profar for just a pitcher? I wouldn't. Profar needs to be traded for an everyday player.

Why? He's not playing at all for Texas, so he has little value unless he plays everyday. And Adams isn't anything that special.

 

[BLeslie59Rangers]

St. Louis is actively trying to trade for a SS now. They have too many starters and are going to be shopping Miller and Lynn. So that trade proposal we have talked about with Miller+ for Profar sounds damn tempting. Give them a SS and Texas can pick up that 5th starter and a bat.

From what I also read, Cards may want to move Craig to the OF, leave Adams at first. Beltran may leave, or they may be thinking of moving Halliday to make room for Taveras. So they may put Halliday in front of us. Would we want him rather than an Adams?? I would say no, his defense is not great and he GIDPs a bunch...good hitter though..

 

[Justinkm83]

Why? He's not playing at all for Texas, so he has little value unless he plays everyday. And Adams isn't anything that special.

Exactly. So you would trade him for a pitcher, which is not a weak part of our club, and a 1B that's not that special? It could be an option, but I think we can do better.

 

[lainey12]

St. Louis is actively trying to trade for a SS now. They have too many starters and are going to be shopping Miller and Lynn. So that trade proposal we have talked about with Miller+ for Profar sounds damn tempting. Give them a SS and Texas can pick up that 5th starter and a bat.

I love this trade, but Cards need offense as well....and of course we assume they'd rather move Lynn.

tough cookies to deal with, but maybe....just maybe.

 

[Justinkm83]

From what I also read, Cards may want to move Craig to the OF, leave Adams at first. Beltran may leave, or they may be thinking of moving Halliday to make room for Taveras. So they may put Halliday in front of us. Would we want him rather than an Adams?? I would say no, his defense is not great and he GIDPs a bunch...good hitter though..

I read that as well. Tough call between those 2.

 

[lainey12]

Why? He's not playing at all for Texas, so he has little value unless he plays everyday. And Adams isn't anything that special.

That's our best hope, we aren't talking Miggy here

 

[lainey12]

I threw this out there the other day...it's controversial, we keep Profar, trade Andrus to the Cards for Adams and Miller. Yeh, this is risky...but if Profar is as good as advertised, then this is a win- win....

I don't how keen they'd be on the Elvis contract...
who knows, but Adams and Miller are cheap, EA is not

It think it's got to be Profar or there's no talk at all.

 

[RevSader]

Exactly. So you would trade him for a pitcher, which is not a weak part of our club, and a 1B that's not that special? It could be an option, but I think we can do better.

Because Shelby Miller isn't just a pitcher. He's a dude that is controllable for years, and is a huge talent. You see a way to make the club better and you take it. Of all the options I have heard trading Profar, this is easily the best.

 

[Justinkm83]

Because Shelby Miller isn't just a pitcher. He's a dude that is controllable for years, and is a huge talent. You see a way to make the club better and you take it. Of all the options I have heard trading Profar, this is easily the best.

If it happened I would be ok with it. I've said many times that I'm not as big on Profar as some, but we need everyday bats. If what JD is saying is true, and they aren't going to spend much, that leaves us with a lot of holes in the line-up still. I'd rather trade him for a big bat. If you can get a pitcher and bat, then I guess.

I also read an article on why they kept him out of the WS. It has a lot to do with his velocity dropping and his K rate. He wasn't missing as many bats. I just hope they weren't protecting his value because they know something other's don't.

 

[RevSader]

If it happened I would be ok with it. I've said many times that I'm not as big on Profar as some, but we need everyday bats. If what JD is saying is true, and they aren't going to spend much, that leaves us with a lot of holes in the line-up still.

I also read an article on why they kept him out of the WS. It has a lot to do with his velocity dropping and his K rate. He wasn't missing as many bats. I just hope they weren't protecting his value because they know something other's don't.

So a first year pitcher ran outta gas down the stretch? That's not really note worthy. If they are that high on Profar, then I would run with it. He's 20 and has a bright future probably. Cards have a huge log jam in their rotation like we have with MIF.

 

[lainey12]

If it happened I would be ok with it. I've said many times that I'm not as big on Profar as some, but we need everyday bats. If what JD is saying is true, and they aren't going to spend much, that leaves us with a lot of holes in the line-up still. I'd rather trade him for a big bat. If you can get a pitcher and bat, then I guess.

I also read an article on why they kept him out of the WS. It has a lot to do with his velocity dropping and his K rate. He wasn't missing as many bats. I just hope they weren't protecting his value because they know something other's don't.

always a possibility, but I can't find anything about injuries...if that means anything

Anyway, as someone said, ideally he was just gassed, and Wacha was not.

 

[lainey12]

So a first year pitcher ran outta gas down the stretch? That's not really note worthy. If they are that high on Profar, then I would run with it. He's 20 and has a bright future probably. Cards have a huge log jam in their rotation like we have with MIF.

I think he was gassed too, and Wacha wasn't.

 

[Justinkm83]

So a first year pitcher ran outta gas down the stretch? That's not really note worthy. If they are that high on Profar, then I would run with it. He's 20 and has a bright future probably. Cards have a huge log jam in their rotation like we have with MIF.

You would have to hope that's all it is. I would rather have an everyday contributor, but a rotation of Yu, Harrison, Perez, Holland, and Miller sounds nice too. Holliday has a big contract, but he's been worth every penny of it. I would think it would be Adams though.

 

[lainey12]

I read that as well. Tough call between those 2.

I'd take Holliday, of course that means taking his salary....and the Cards may like that.

 

[donaldson79]

St. Louis is actively trying to trade for a SS now. They have too many starters and are going to be shopping Miller and Lynn. So that trade proposal we have talked about with Miller+ for Profar sounds damn tempting. Give them a SS and Texas can pick up that 5th starter and a bat.

Miller may be a 5th starter today, but he pitched great for the Cards - won 15 and had about 3 ERA- and he's only 23. He may be a # 3/2 in the making.

 

[Justinkm83]

I'm not very interested in Profar for Miller straight up though.

 

[jta4437]

If it happened I would be ok with it. I've said many times that I'm not as big on Profar as some, but we need everyday bats. If what JD is saying is true, and they aren't going to spend much, that leaves us with a lot of holes in the line-up still. I'd rather trade him for a big bat. If you can get a pitcher and bat, then I guess.

I also read an article on why they kept him out of the WS. It has a lot to do with his velocity dropping and his K rate. He wasn't missing as many bats. I just hope they weren't protecting his value because they know something other's don't.

He said that payroll was going to be about the same as last year, that leaves a lot of wiggle b/c we had quite a few expiring contracts (Cruz, Nathan, etc...)