2014 Offseason Plans Thread

[RevSader]

And that is totally fine and acceptable. I don't fully agree but hey it's all good.

We're all black friends.

Charles Barkley will not save you.

 

[ESPN Refugee]

Then why the hell did you mention what he means to the city? He adds nothing tangible to their life as a sports star.

I have a problem with your opinion, because it's incorrect to put Jeter anywhere close to Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio, and Ruth.

Had you said Albert Pujols was at the level of those guys, then I would have zero issue with your statement. I don't know how you can make that opinion without using hard evidence to back it. I can look at everything on context and say that Pujols belongs in that conversation when he retires and that Jeter does not.

You have a problem with my opinion and it's all good. My opinion differs from yours. Opinions are subjective. It's beyond me why you can't recognize that.

 

[RevSader]

You have a problem with my opinion and it's all good. My opinion differs from yours. Opinions are subjective. It's beyond me why you can't recognize that.

Because this is an indefensible opinion. You have to have something to back your opinion other than saying "oh it's just my opinion." That's lazy man. Don't be lazy. Make an argument why Jeter belongs in the conversation that has actual tangible things supporting it, and I won't give you a hard time. Until then I will. I mean you don't have to do anything you don't want to, but I am going to chide you for being lazy otherwise.

 

[ESPN Refugee]

Because this is an indefensible opinion. You have to have something to back your opinion other than saying "oh it's just my opinion." That's lazy man. Don't be lazy. Make an argument why Jeter belongs in the conversation that has actual tangible things supporting it, and I won't give you a hard time. Until then I will. I mean you don't have to do anything you don't want to, but I am going to chide you for being lazy otherwise.

Call me lazy then. Jeez Louise.

If you're going to only base it on stats then ya maybe it won't be a fair comparison because Jeter and Mantle are/were 2 completely different players. Jeter's 18 or 19 years of individual stats speak for themselves. You can also add 5 rings to that. He was the best player in his position during his generation (in his prime years) that also happened to be the most dominant team of his era for the most part.

I'm not one that only will look at statistics to base what a players worth and value is to a team/organization etc. I take a holistic approach and realize he is a part of the fabric of the Yankee organization. Look I won't say if I had one person to build a team around of the players we mentioned, I'll certainly put Jeter on the bottom of the list but that's not what I am really talking about.

IMO when it's all said and done, 50 years from now I think baseball fans and purists will be talking about Jeter and just how great of a player he was.

I still love you.

 

[RevSader]

Call me lazy then. Jeez Louise.

If you're going to only base it on stats then ya maybe it won't be a fair comparison because Jeter and Mantle are/were 2 completely different players. Jeter's 18 or 19 years of individual stats speak for themselves. You can also add 5 rings to that. He was the best player in his position during his generation (in his prime years) that also happened to be the most dominant team of his era for the most part.

I'm not one that only will look at statistics to base what a players worth and value is to a team/organization etc. I take a holistic approach and realize he is a part of the fabric of the Yankee organization. Look I won't say if I had one person to build a team around of the players we mentioned, I'll certainly put Jeter on the bottom of the list but that's not what I am really talking about.

IMO when it's all said and done, 50 years from now I think baseball fans and purists will be talking about Jeter and just how great of a player he was.

I still love you.

It's Friday afternoon and I am extremely bored. If I didn't have internet sports arguments to start, how would I make it through the doldrums before the weekend? How I ask you? HOW?!?!?!

 

[RevSader]

Nathan officially voids his option and is a FA. I will miss you Joe...

 

[scotsman1948]

Nathan officially voids his option and is a FA. I will miss you Joe...

well there's 9.5M they can use to bring in a bat

 

[terpsfball09]

Michael Young is as good as babe ruth, just sayin

 

[WastinSomeTime]

If Jeter was a Ranger his entire career like MY almost was he would be an above average player but not to the level he is because of playing in NY on very good teams in a big market. And we would still have no championship rings. And if MY is on those same NY teams the Yankees still win plenty of World Series. That being said I like the guy because I think he has always carried himself well and I cannot say that about very many Yankees. Now that is just me.

 

[DT LUNA]

If Jeter was a Ranger his entire career like MY almost was he would be an above average player but not to the level he is because of playing in NY on very good teams in a big market. And we would still have no championship rings. And if MY is on those same NY teams the Yankees still win plenty of World Series. That being said I like the guy because I think he has always carried himself well and I cannot say that about very many Yankees. Now that is just me.

Good point.

 

[jta4437]

I hate the winning of titles as a basis of a great player, Luis Sojo has 4 rings, therefore he must be an awesome player....

 

[RevSader]

I hate the winning of titles as a basis of a great player, Luis Sojo has 4 rings, therefore he must be an awesome player....

I couldn't agree more with you on that one. Championships are a team accomplishment.

 

[DT LUNA]

This is a boring Friday night. Lets pick it up. Murphy is a HOF material and Rev likes the Yankees. There that should do it. Like I said boring.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

This is a boring Friday night. Lets pick it up. Murphy is a HOF material and Rev likes the Yankees. There that should do it. Like I said boring.

 

[romeo212000]

MLB Bobby Jones joins coaching staff for 2014 - ESPN

This might be old news, but what do you guys think? Anybody know anything about this guy? I wish they'd get rid of Pettis too. Not been impressed with his third base coaching or outfield coaching.

 

[DT LUNA]

MLB Bobby Jones joins coaching staff for 2014 - ESPN

This might be old news, but what do you guys think? Anybody know anything about this guy? I wish they'd get rid of Pettis too. Not been impressed with his third base coaching or outfield coaching.

haven't heard anything about him.

 

[romeo212000]

A bullpen arm I'd be interested in bringing back is Michael Gonzalez. He was a good hard throwing lefty to have if you used him right.

Anybody got any interest in Cory Hart, Morales, or Beltran? Beltran makes me nervous because at his age you never know when the bat speed is going to go, but as of this season he's one of the best hitters in baseball.

Also, please get McCann.

 

[darrylgann]

This is a boring Friday night. Lets pick it up. Murphy is a HOF material and Rev likes the Yankees. There that should do it. Like I said boring.

 

[jta4437]

A bullpen arm I'd be interested in bringing back is Michael Gonzalez. He was a good hard throwing lefty to have if you used him right.

Anybody got any interest in Cory Hart, Morales, or Beltran? Beltran makes me nervous because at his age you never know when the bat speed is going to go, but as of this season he's one of the best hitters in baseball.

Also, please get McCann.

Morales and McCann I'd be fine with, Hart is too injury prone, Beltran's bat is good but he's always on the verge of breaking down, don't want to get saddled with his contract

 

[donaldson79]

I hate the winning of titles as a basis of a great player, Luis Sojo has 4 rings, therefore he must be an awesome player....

Robert Horry must be the best basketball player ever, because he's got 7 rings. I hear ya, loud clear and correct.